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Old 11-22-2012, 12:35 PM   #1
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ITT: Save bad films by doing three changes

So we name a bad/mediocre film and explain what three changes would have made it suck less or even turn into a good movie.

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Spider-Man 3:

- remove Sandman and Gwen Stacy. Enough villains already and Gwen wasn't memorable at all
- devote more time to Harry's turn to evil (maybe add the drug addiction)
- make Peter not turn a 15 year old emo. Nuff said.

Phantom Menace:

- remove C3PO and R2D2 (too good a coincidence that they're present)
- make Anakin an adult already, not a kid (Padme could be his age then too)
- don't kill Darth Maul (he was a great villain)
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:37 PM   #2
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Any generic comedy: remove the plot device and send his sorry ass to jail
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:39 PM   #3
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:40 PM   #4
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Phantom Menace:

- Kill JarJar Binks
- Kill George Lucas before he wrote the movie
- don't kill Darth Maul (he was a great villain)


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Old 11-22-2012, 12:40 PM   #5
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:48 PM   #6
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- make Anakin an adult already, not a kid (Padme could be his age then too)



That wouldn't really make sense, unless they didn't show any of the parts where he became a Jedi. The council barely would let him train at his age in the film. No way would it make sense to let him if he was already an adult.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:49 PM   #7
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How was darth maul a great villain? He didn't do anything. He was literally only in the movie so they could have a lightsaber fight at the end.



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That wouldn't really make sense, unless they didn't show any of the parts where he became a Jedi. The council barely would let him train at his age in the film. No way would it make sense to let him if he was already an adult.



All the bullshit about having to train them as kids was made up in the phantom menace, yo. Circular logic.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:50 PM   #8
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How was darth maul a great villain? He didn't do anything. He was literally only in the movie so they could have a lightsaber fight at the end.


Exactly. He had like two speaking lines and stupid warpaint, why does everyone fap over him?
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How was darth maul a great villain? He didn't do anything. He was literally only in the movie so they could have a lightsaber fight at the end.



I like Darth Maul, but this is a fair point. He didn't do much of anything. I would have liked to see him play a larger role.
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That wouldn't really make sense, unless they didn't show any of the parts where he became a Jedi. The council barely would let him train at his age in the film. No way would it make sense to let him if he was already an adult.

Ahhh I forgot... how about no Qui-Gon at all, but let adult Anakin already be Obi-Wan's padawan for years before the movie, and allow that relationship develop throughout all the prequels so their final duel would make more sense.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:51 PM   #11
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Exactly. He had like two speaking lines and stupid warpaint, why does everyone fap over him?



cuz he has OSSUM SPIKES ND RED ND BLAK SKIN AND DUZ KOOL FLIPS N SHIT


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Ahhh I forgot... how about no Qui-Gon at all, but let adult Anakin already be Obi-Wan's padawan for years before the movie, and allow that relationship develop throughout all the prequels so their final duel would make more sense.



Now we're talkin'. Redlettermedia said it best in one of their SW reviews, "They should have taken Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi and fused them into a new character called Obi-Wan Kenobi."
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:52 PM   #12
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to hell with that I loved Phantom Menace
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:54 PM   #13
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to hell with that I loved Phantom Menace

I also do. Attack Of The Clones is much worse.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:06 PM   #14
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I also loved the Phantom Menace and agree that Attack of the Clones was terrible.

I think Darth Maul was awesome too.

Sandman was a good catalyst for certain themes in Spiderman 3. I agree that Harry needed to be included more. I thought Peters transformation to the dark suit was hilarious too.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:07 PM   #15
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The Matrix series.

Remove the three movies.

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Old 11-22-2012, 01:09 PM   #16
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Exactly. He had like two speaking lines and stupid warpaint, why does everyone fap over him?


Not war paint. He's a Zabrak. Dat wut they have, dawg. Every Zabrak has a different facial pattern.

Nerding out over...he's not a good character. Just looks cool with his double bladed lightsaber.
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I also do. Attack Of The Clones is much worse.

True. Although there are ofcourse some things that could have been added to the phantom menace.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:11 PM   #18
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True. Although there are ofcourse some things that could have been added to the phantom menace.



A plot would be my first suggestion.
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A plot would be my first suggestion.

There was a plot. The trade federation attacked naboo (guided by the Sith lord) and then the jedi came in, saved the hot girl, got stuck on a shitty planet, found a great potential jedi, went to coruscant, got no help, went back to naboo to wage war, won the war, everybody happy and they walked the dinosaur.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:18 PM   #20
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Phantom menace was the best star wars movie, hands down.

Here's my 3 tips for the whole series:
-Justify the nonsequential order. Why should we care about where Anakin comes from if we know he becomes evil, becomes darth vader, fathers luke/laya, the empire takes over, etc? There's no grand reveal to keep the audience intrigued.
-have a capable screenwiter rerwrite all of the movies. The whole thing has some great ideas but the narrative is presented with horrible execution.
-fire Carrie fischer and Mark hammil. Hammil is a prolific voice actor but horrendous in person.
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