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| It is right to kill the one for the five in both situations, but I could not push the fat man |
  
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| It is right to kill the one for the five, and I could push the fat man (psychopath) |
  
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| It is not right to kill the one for the five in either situation |
  
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11-25-2012, 12:17 PM
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11-25-2012, 12:17 PM
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bettr then u deal w/ it
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just HOW fat though? maybe he has enough mass to stop the train without taking too much damage himself, it's worth the gamble
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11-25-2012, 12:18 PM
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11-25-2012, 12:18 PM
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11-25-2012, 12:19 PM
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No, how is it my choice to decide who lives or dies? Why should the fat man die?
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11-25-2012, 12:19 PM
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I wouldn't do it. Perhaps it would be the morally correct thing to do, but due to emotional thinking I would not be able to do that. Which is why the argument made in the video that the psychopath would be able to see past the emotional thinking and save the five is interesting. Quote:
Well... I guess there's that.
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11-25-2012, 12:21 PM
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bettr then u deal w/ it
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the **** does that even mean so he could still be potentially big enough, then i'm all for it
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11-25-2012, 12:22 PM
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That guy kinda looks like a 45 year old Barney Stinson with bad hair :S
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11-25-2012, 12:23 PM
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I would flick the switch, unless the one person trapped was someone close to me, and the others weren't.
I would never have pushed the fat guy, though. Quote:
In short, it means that he would be able to stop the train.
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11-25-2012, 12:24 PM
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@ Ichikurosaki, it was just a joke, didn't think it was hard to get.
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Your mom is even fatter then the man who was fat enough to stop a speeding train. |
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11-25-2012, 12:24 PM
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By not acting you've chosen that the five will die. Ignoring the situation doesn't change the fact that you could have saved five people and didn't.
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11-25-2012, 12:25 PM
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It also invovles that you wouldn't have directly killed someone.
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11-25-2012, 12:32 PM
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You haven't chosen to make five die, you've simply chosen not to kill to prevent their deaths. One option means that I am not involved, the other means I murder someone.
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11-25-2012, 12:34 PM
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How is neglecting to save somebody who could be easily saved any different from killing them yourself, morally?
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11-25-2012, 12:36 PM
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Yes, you're right. I have. But they would have died if I wasn't there anyway. The fat man, however, would be killed by a direct cause of me. Quote:
"Easily saved". By murdering someone.
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11-25-2012, 12:36 PM
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>easily saved >pushing a fat guy pick one
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11-25-2012, 12:37 PM
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Do Sadists go to Hell?
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It's different in the fact that the former does not trespass on the definition whatsoever. If I see a man smoking a don't swat the cigarette out of his mouth and he later dies of lung cancer have I murdered him?
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11-25-2012, 12:39 PM
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The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
EDIT: Except in the case of the fat guy, he outweighs everybody else.
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11-25-2012, 12:40 PM
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Definition of what? I'm asking how neglecting to save somebody is any better than murdering them? So much better in fact that you'd rather neglect to save five people than kill one.
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11-25-2012, 12:40 PM
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Do Sadists go to Hell?
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So if you're in a hospital waiting room and they need a set of organs to save five patients it's acceptable for them to run in and vivisect you for them? In fact, lets change the original scenario. You're a fat guy - do you jump in front of the train and save everyone or not? Quote:
People with ADHD are more likely to go on to physically assault and even kill people later in life, should we kill everyone with ADHD?
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