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Old 11-30-2012, 03:31 AM   #101
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I don't see the humor in someone who sticks to their faith but still recognizes the shortcomings of their own religious institutions, and thus wants to distance themselves from it.
To me, it just comes off as insecurity, almost as though they think that people will assume they're stupid for being christians (and people that would are giant twats to begin with). I'd prefer an attitude of "I happen to believe this, and I'm going on with my day. If you make assumptions about me, you're an arrogant prick and I don't need to explain myself to you."
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:32 AM   #102
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That's kind of an egotistical way of looking at them, presuming their stance stems from insecurity and not from their own personal convictions.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:33 AM   #103
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Fair enough. It's partially based on my experiences with people I've met with that attitude and what I've known of them.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:36 AM   #104
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It's kinda like that guy we all know that claims to be bi, but we all know he's as gay as they come and it's annoying when he won't just admit it.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:36 AM   #105
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I'll just prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt. It makes no difference to me as to why they hold that stance, in the end.

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It's kinda like that guy we all know that claims to be bi, but we all know he's as gay as they come and it's annoying when he won't just admit it.



hahaha i get the comparison but I've never met someone like that.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:48 AM   #106
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The worst is when Christians are like "Christianity isn't a religion because it's about a personal, one on one relationship with God."
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:49 AM   #107
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That one, I won't back.

I mean, on one hand, it's true. It comes down to your faith and your faith alone. On the other, community is a very, very integral part of the religion.
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:04 AM   #108
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For the same reason anyone would spend their time learning a system of ideas or beliefs; to feel less guilty about being a horrible person.

wut?

Why would spending even more time reading about Buddhism make me feel less guilty about my life?

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Or, in your case, just call something you don't know about yet a waste of time and never bother learning anything.

I've read multiple books by Thich Nhat Hanh, I feel as if I put in a good effort with Buddhism. Ironically, all Mahayana and Zen monks take 'Thich' as their "family" name or surname implying that their first family is the Buddhist community. If that doesn't smack of organized religion I don't know what does.
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:46 AM   #109
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I guess it depends on how you define "philosophy" and "religion"...and "Christianity".


A philosophy is the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, something which religion tends to approach from a direction that involves the belief in a deity/deities. (although some, like Buddhism, don't insist on deity worship)
Religion is a collection of belief systems, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to spirituality and, usualy, to some form of moral value.

ALL religions are essentially also philosophies.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:13 AM   #110
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It was interesting how he used philosophy as an umbrella term with multiple religions under it: I haven't heard that one before.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:17 AM   #111
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Religions contain, generally, a certain philosophy. They also contain other stuff that makes them different from pure philosophy.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:18 AM   #112
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:08 AM   #113
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It was interesting how he used philosophy as an umbrella term with multiple religions under it: I haven't heard that one before.


'Philosophy' is like 'post-modernist', the majority of people have no idea how to use the word correctly.
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I've decided that sports is a religion.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:21 AM   #115
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I've decided that sports is a religion.

Australia decided that long ago.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:01 AM   #116
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It's a good idea to seek the truth, not every single idea about something.


Yes, but one needs to understand an idea before discounting it.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:04 AM   #117
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'Philosophy' is like 'post-modernist', the majority of people have no idea how to use the word correctly.

I have to give a presentation about post-modernism on Monday and I am one of those people

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Hence my reading of Thich Nhat Hanh's work.
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Australia decided that long ago.


Australia isn't real though.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:30 AM   #119
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Reading the Sutras is like reading the Bible- there is a lot of stuff that you can choose to see as metaphor or reality. There are Buddhas the size of dragons that fly around on huge winged elephants, and Maras with hundreds of arms that destroy universes with their psychic powers, but this is all part of discourse that presents human nature, and vehicles to living our lives more effectively and becoming stronger and wiser.


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