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Old 11-30-2012, 07:09 PM   #1
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Matereal for fretless guitar neck?

Hi, im planning on buying a cheap used ibanez rga32, and making it freless. What material shuld i use for the neck? My first tought was aliminium since the weight, but will it deform over time? Its a light guitar, so i do not want an off balance guitar in weight. I have tought about glass, but wouldnt it break easily? Does the trusseod need ajusting over time? Also what strings do i want to use in it, when i play 9s in standard, and want to have some sustain?
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:17 PM   #2
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Typically you don't use anything special; maple with a gloss finish and ebony are popular because of their smooth feel. I've heard of people using random epoxy or plastics, but most fretless electric guitars just use the regular rosewood/maple/ebony that any fretted electric would use.

Whatever you use, yes, the truss rod iwll need adjusting, even if you use a very dense material and a double truss rod. Everything shifts slightly over time and as its environment changes. Even guitars with metal necks need truss rods and will need to be tweaked every once in a while.

Use whatever strings you find most comfortable. That is the only rule for strings. Doesn't matter what you play, the right choice is always whatever is most comfortable for you.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:37 PM   #3
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Well but fretless guitars, for example the ones that guthrie govan and bumblefoot plays, have a metal fretboard. Wouldnt it increase sustain, playbility, fretboard life?
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:46 PM   #4
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The Vigier Surfreter, favored by Shawn Lane and Bumblefoot, uses a brass alloy called Delta Metal.

There are glass fretboard guitars out the- seen 'em on YouTube- but AFAIK, none are made commercially. I know a bit about glass from other artistic endeavors: it is versatile, and can be heavy or light, depending on type and thickness. Brittleness also is variable. It is also a material with plenty of upside artistically speaking, since you can include all kinds of tints or materials- look up dichroic glass, for instance. However, glass is one you'd DEFINITELY want to talk to a pro about, since there are so many options.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2c7p4Acd-4&sns=em

There are some guys out there talking about carbon fiber and other exotic manmade materials for fretless guitars, like Jon Kammerer (at least, when he and I discuss it). However, AFAIK, nobody has actually done it yet.

Manmade materials like porcelain, corian or polycarbonate/lexan- a.k.a. Bulletproof glass- might work too.

You might be able to get a thin slab of a stone like granite to do the job.

Wood is always an option- it works on fretless basses, after all.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:05 PM   #5
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I have a fretless strat with aluminum laid over the original rosewood board. It was done well and it makes me think aluminum is a decent choice. The neck is a little heavier than a standard neck but it doesn't throw the weight off too badly. I don't know exactly how old it is but it's certainly more than 10 years old, probably closer to 20-25, and there's been no deformation or significant wear on the aluminum. Certainly adds some sustain, too.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:08 AM   #6
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Does anyone know waht material that is used on those vigier fretboards for fretless?
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I mentioned it upthread- Delta Metal, a brass alloy that is harder than most other brasses.
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