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I Sold The World
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Could someone help me with this structure? A name and also, is it normal?
Ok, so we've written this song, though I have no recording, and I'm a bit confused about the structure..it's what came naturally, but it seems abnormal.
I want to know if it's anything normal, and if it has a name. It's like this: Intro Intro (whole band) Little bridge Verse 1 Clean bridge Verse 2 Same bridge as before but distorted Chorus Interlude 1 Interlude 2 Chorus Outro Basically to me it seems a bit weird. Mostly 'cause the intro doesn't repeat even once, the two verses are attached and there's no verse after the chorus..I don't know. Someone help?
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Norway
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I completely fail to see this as a problem.
What does it matter if the structure isn't "normal"? And I don't see why you would want a name on it. As long as it comes natural, which you said it did, it's completely fine. Stop worrying and go have fun playing your song! |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Interlude 2 needs more flanger. Other than that you're all good.
Seriously though, if it sounds good to you it's fine.
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Micropolyphoner
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
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Yeah seriously, if you add flanger to interlude 2 it's basically a sonata form.
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Buckethead's Right Hand
Join Date: Mar 2011
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-prog.
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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This. Dream Theater has been writing stuff like this for years and it's worked out pretty well for them.
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I Sold The World
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Does an effect really make a difference to a structure? Quote:
No way, for sure? I always considered prog to be over 11 minute long songs with long intrumental breaks and stuff.. Anyway, the main reason I'm asking is that..yeah it doesn't sound bad, it allc ame naturally, and it does flow, but it flows in a kind of..chaotic way, as if no thought whatsoever was given to the song ![]() But anyway, thanks guys.
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Nope, I was totally kidding. It doesn't matter what you call it, if the form works, the form works. |
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UG's Jester
Join Date: May 2011
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I like this form. It's a hell of a lot more interesting than verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge/solo-chrous (not that there's anything wrong with that, just that its used a lot).
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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Mhmmm! TS, "abnormal" song structures is just another way of saying, "This song is better than the average tune". |
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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intro
bridge material A bridge material A bridge material B bridge 2 bridge 3 material B coda You can simplify it down to that. There's not really a chorus since there's no context for it. It doesn't really have or need a name. I guess if you consider that there is 2 core material, A and B, it's some kind of complex binary like most conventional songs, just without the conventional order.
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Finland
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Why should you use a common structure in your song? I mean, it's just good that not every song sounds the same. There are no rules with music. If it sounds good, it's good. But if it doesn't, changing the structure is easy. I don't see any problems with it. Just change the structure to verse chorus stuff if you want. But really don't. Just leave it as it is, there are more than enough songs with the verse-chorus-verse-chorus structure.
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Because the "prog rock" today is clished to be just "11 minute long songs with long instrumental breaks and stuff", the true progressive rock would break that pattern. Progress - creating something new.
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yes. it's very normal. i would simplify it even further than xiaoxi did, so here's your structure: intro verse 1 verse 2 chorus bridge chorus outro it's just a very small modification on the song structure that is the herpes of modern music. everything you call "bridges" are best analyzed as transitional passages, and likely don't serve much function in the form. Quote:
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Dallas
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if you can put a name on a structure, it's probably gonna come out as shitty and/or unoriginal
you can make a 10 minute song off one motif, and a 2 minute song off a hundred parts. as long as it sounds natural, how you'd break down a form is secondary to its cohesion unless you're just trying to plug riffs together (which is probably the case)
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