gumbilicious

**** 'em. let them get upset. i don't see anything you said that people should get that bent outta shape about.

for the music i play, standard is the right fit. i played in drop D for a while, def has a different feel and i have a couple pieces on my profile that reflect that.

drop C is what other people use, it is their right fit.

too much gain doesn't fit my style right now, other people like over-the-top gain

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EVERY metal band i play shows with has their gain maxed out. Most of them have a ts-9 or some type of over drive on top of that. All i hear is a wall of hiss and mud when they play, and when you try to tell them otherwise you get shit for it.

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Cathbard

There are a shitload of songs played in drop D that are not metal. It's not about having extra bass, it's about riffage. Monkey Wrench is in drop D and that's hardly metal. I always had a guitar tuned into drop D on stage with me when I was playing grunge and it was surprising how many times it got used.
Hell, the bottom two strings are tuned down a full step when playing in open G too. Bad to The Bone is metal?

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nickdohle

I play a shit ton of acoustic songs with heavy arpeggios on drop d. Drop D is not a metal tuning. Now, I can riff the shit out of some metal on drop D. But tunings are not limited to a certain type of music.

Alter Bridge uses Korn tunings occasionally like drop A and theyre more rock than anything.

Cathbard

So metal guitarists should all be playing Dobros?

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tas38

A dobro...? OH those things with a car rim in the middle.

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Yeah.

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Tremolo Bum

I have my acoustic set up with some thick strings tuned down a whole step. It sounds great

Doesn't get much more metal than an acoustic.

dementiacaptain

I'd do it.

As far as using too much gain, I don't know, it really depends. A 6505 does get really fizzy, so probably not on that, but I think some amps sound wicked with the gain floored. A lot of Mesas sound brutal as shit all the way up on the distortion.

Its all about context. A good death metal tone ( an actual good one, not just a good shitty tone) can have a lot of distortion and sound great, but you have to use it right, thick, juicy chords that just slam you in the gut, rather than something super noodly.

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Ian_the_fox

Yes.

Generally if you encounter younger metal players they max out gain on EVERYTHING and always scoop their mids. The lack of maturity and over self-absorbedness and are too afraid to turn down the distortion with the fear that their mistakes would be exposed to the max.

I disagree with this. I mean, drop tuning (C or D) certainly does have unique advantages, but if you are only using it for the sole reason of power-chord convenience, that just comes off as cheating.


The reason I've found myself using it often is because it unlocks unique chord shapes as well as changing the way the rest of the strings react to the first 3. As in you can arpeggiate certain things better with the open 4 strings.

It's hard to explain in words, I'll see if I can find an example or record something when I'm done with classes. If you listen to quite a bit of Dream Theater or Mastadon you hear them make a good bit.


EDIT: Here's what I'm talking about:

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It's not cheating, it allows you to do hammer ons of chords on all three bass strings. I don't give a crap how good you are, how can you do those hammer ons in standard tuning? It's no more cheating than using open tuning to play slide.

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SexyLikeAPig

I don't really see how making something easier is cheating. And like Cathbard said, you can't really do those hammer-on chords shenanigans in standard.

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Blues in drop A is amazing.

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SexyLikeAPig

I like down-tunings. I don't play metal, but I like the sounds and tones you can get from them. Same with open tunings, which tend to have dropped strings in them.

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My Megalith Beta's "clean" channel just so happens to sound fucking amazing when you crank all the dials on it. Glorious amounts of crunch. Similarly, the lead channel sounds tits when you max out the gain dial running on the 'low gain' voicing mode. Super tight, modern sound that is perfect for recording.

tas38

I suppose capos are cheating?

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BoneAndDream

lol @ all the phaggots getting mad about drop tunings

i have one guitar in e standard, one in c standard

my next guitar i plan to put in drop B

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crabstampede

this thread sucks.

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