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Double mic your cab. Or run two cabs.
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i guess i will have to use two cabs. its more fun that way. FYI my laptop got fried last week, right after i got the I/0's straightened out.
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That's a cool trick. Think it'll work with two guitars and a bass playing metal?
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Ask the people in this forum, they actually know what they're talking about.
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Rhythm section, man. The heaviness always lays on the bass and drums combination. If you have a heavy rhythm section, you will sound heavy. Rage Against the Machine is another example of a heavy as hell band, but Tom Morello doesn't use that much gain at all.
Also, listening to early Black Sabbath is like going to school.
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that is all. |
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Southern California, USA
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Multitracking is evil black magic. Makes guitars sound artificially ****ing huge, almost regardless of amp.
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A short delay about 30-40ms with zero feedback & 60-70% of effect level helps at times.
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I'm just skeptical as to whether you'd be able to hear the lower register live with a bass in the background and two distorted guitars.
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This is what I would do, when you have the same passage on a lower pitch just behind, it works a matress pushing the higher pitch replicated parts to the front giving you a bigger sound. Do I wrote it correctly? ![]()
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Matt B & Jon D. were using Krank Revolutions at that time, not sure about the studio recording though.
I always liked their dry, clear, aggressive high gain tone. I also know that both guitarists, particularily Matt B. have a very heavy handed picking technique too. They really "dig in" to the strings. When you do this with hot pickups like the EMG's they use and set the amps gain to medium - low levels you get a lot of clarity and aggression without having to use lots of preamp gain. This is how I play and dial in most of my amps. This band, and album came out around the same time and has that same dry medium gain aggression. The album is Constitution of Treason.
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none of these songs have heavy guitars. the sabbath made me laugh.
heavy bass + double tracking and layering. the lead guitars in those shadows fall clips aren't any heavier then early classic metal. so the answer is that it's not the guitars at all.
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in seems to me that in the studio bands don't use nearly as much gain as you would think
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Also, there is an obvious difference between a heavy guitar sound and a brutal guitar sound. Classic metal up to thrash and metalcore is heavy. Once you go past those genres the guitars gain/distortion enters the brutal realm.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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although this may come under the heading of studio magic it can be applied to a live situation as well. EQ. having the guitar and bass adjusted so they compliment each oters tone goes a long way in making riffs sound heavier. someone mentioned classic metal and the SF tune reminded me of just that (except the cookie monster vocals which almost always ruins it for me).
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Texas
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you can play some seriously heavy shit on a tele.
^^ couldn't have said it better ^ lol cookie monster Last edited by ihartfood : 12-03-2012 at 08:27 PM. |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: On an Island
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that first vid is fun to jam with, i'll try the others now
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Agreed! Bass lines are key.
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