Diamond Dave

get used to it, as far as I can tell your only gripe was that there is too much code to write and if you can't handle a lot of code you're in for a rude shock if you ever try to write something useful.

MVC baby, MVC. Java is actually rather intuitive when it comes to creating GUI's, they're just ugly in Windows


JOptionPane barely counts, you practically just replace System.out.println's with popup windows

once you get into Java GUI's properly you'll find things you'll love to hate, the drawing API's were the most annoying at first IMO

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Well, I'm learning Java and a little Perl, as well as Assembley, and I'm going to be starting C++ and Prolog at some point. I like Java the most though, since it's mostly fairly logical.

Or at least what I know of it is

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Well, all languages should be logical lol. But I'm just splitting hairs.

I really do enjoy Java though. I think after my next class I'll be learning C++, so I'll have a better opinion of it then.

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Diamond Dave

PHP was the best one lol

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I liked the section of languages that don't even float lol

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crazysam23_Atax

The code isn't the issue. I've worked on several large projects. 100s of lines of code is fine. But GUIs are awkward to me in Java. I've a professor who also says this (and worked in the industry for years before teaching).

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I like python because I am lazy.

Diamond Dave

that's interesting. /sarcasm Java GUI's are just an easy target for anybody, my first professor who introduced us to Java GUI's ran with that line as well. The year after another one tore the whole thing down and explained it all which really highlighted all it's great strengths.

they do require a lot of legwork but its not difficult. The system can feel clunky but that's just because it lets you do whatever you want, which is a good thing. Once you've delved into a few other languages you'll realise that the grass is actually pretty green on Java's side of the fence (in respect to GUI's at least).

EDIT: also lol @ implying that 100s of lines constitutes a "large" project.

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I worded that rather poorly I meant of the three languages I currently know bits of, Java is the easiest for me to get my head around. Perl isn't too bad either, but I haven't really been doing it long enough to have written anything useful with it.



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You're an arrogant prick, take your smugness and fuck yourself. I'm glad you get to feel superior. Too bad it's of no benefit to you.


Also, lol@ implying I said it was a large project.

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man that ego...

i know where you're coming from sam. gui programming is annoying. that's why i don't do it but i suppose that's not an option for you.

jazz_rock_feel

That wasn't really egotistical or arrogant. It's not that impressive that his professor worked in "the industry", so did everybody's; Java is an easy target in general, not even just for GUIs and a lot of people take pot shots at it even though it has strengths; and 100s of lines of code isn't a particularly large project.

I mean, I'm not saying that DD isn't arrogant, but that wasn't a good example of it.

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I agree with this, except about the prof bit. My C++ prof was beyond worthless.



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lol wat, I wasn't having a go ffs.


thank you, someone with reading comprehension skills.

EDIT: just to clarify sam, if you read between the lines a little bit I was trying to give you some advice.. everyone has ragged on Java at some point, but my point was simply to try and enjoy it while it lasts because you'll be dealing with MUCH more awkward things in the future.

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I spent a few weeks this past summer learning Rails, which I think is generally all Ruby is ever used for now. Rails is ridiculous. Once you figure out what's going on programming is basically like having a conversation with the computer.

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Fortran or get out.

Yeah right. Mine's C. Although I've been looking into getting into Python.

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