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Old 12-05-2012, 12:12 PM   #1
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Disposable Generation of Music

Hey guys, so I've been looking into the music industry of today and the way music is absorbed. It seems to me that music is becoming more and more disposable.
By this I mean that people don't listen to albums as such anymore, but rather individual tracks. Each track is a big thing, until the next big thing is released and the previous song forgotten about.

So what do you guys think? Do you agree that music is as disposable as everything else in our generation is? Is it a good or bad thing?

I know The Pit probably isn't the right place to discuss this but wasn't sure where else was appropriate.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:13 PM   #2
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Music has always been like that, music will always be like that. Deal with it for Gods sake.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:16 PM   #3
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:18 PM   #4
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I only listen to albums, I can`t be bothered to make playlists or pick a new song every 3 to 6 minutes.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:23 PM   #5
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I pretty much only listen to full albums or EPs

yea son

But the album format is coming back via filesharing.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:30 PM   #6
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But to be honest, this is a model thats been around since Motown in the 50's and 60's: Singles are churned out by loads of peripheral people in a small space and the rest is essentially the same, just not as 'good' or marketable.

People go on about 'disposable music', but you cant really dispose of music.. the word that people look for when they say disposable is 'easy'.

Everything in a pop song follows a formula of some kind somewhere, the' creative talents' involved have magnitudes more collective experience in writing hit songs than pretty much anyone, trends are easy to spot once a specific breakthrough act gets in, this sets the standard of writing tunes for the next 5 years, blah blah blah. New tech allows for even quicker ways to get the product out as quickly as possible. Artist fabrication is also a big thing too, like Paramore or Milli Vanilli.

Its music business cuz its business, no one honestly cares about ethics so long as people keep buying.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:32 PM   #7
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:34 PM   #8
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I'm not seeing the connection between listening to individual tracks and music therefore being "disposable."
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:34 PM   #9
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I'm not about to be pissy as a result of the ways that other people listen to music

No, you must be pissy. The world requires it.


Also, disposable music is a good way to put it.
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Everyone needs to experience art in the exact way that I want them to!
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:53 PM   #11
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Music has always been like that, music will always be like that.

Uh...no it hasn't. Up until commercialism of music became commonplace, music was a very integral part of the lives of the middle and upper class, to the point that many people held such strong and fervent opinions over it that there were riots and fights from musical topics. They also were much more musically educated and listened to music critically with a technical background.

With this in mind, I lament we are in a particularly low period of art in general because of how superfluous in value it has become, with a largely art illiterate public throughout the world.

I also highly doubt that "it will always be like that." At some point in this century I think people will be fed up with the staleness of commercial art.


As for most pop music, there is no reason why an album needs to be listened to in its entirety. The pop notion of a music album was really made out of economic sense rather than any artistic sense. Almost all pop music has no connecting material between the tracks that merits an unbroken listening. So in fact, the modern digital notion of a track (especially of pop music) being standalone is the correct, optimal one.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:58 PM   #12
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:02 PM   #13
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If you look at past music charts you find a lot of one-hit wonders and bland pop-stars just like today. Artists that topped the charts and sold out arenas are forgotten today. We just look back and cherry-pick the music that actually was good/holds up.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:46 PM   #14
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To be fair, singles used to be the big thing, Phil Spector and all that, then albums became a big thing, maybe it's just going back the way for awhile - personally I think the pressure to write one great single is just as high as it is to write one great album. I'm in the middle - I own tons of albums, but do have individual songs by artist whom I only like now and then (tends to be more dance and early blues stuff)
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:04 PM   #15
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Uh...no it hasn't. Up until commercialism of music became commonplace, music was a very integral part of the lives of the middle and upper class, to the point that many people held such strong and fervent opinions over it that there were riots and fights from musical topics. They also were much more musically educated and listened to music critically with a technical background. .

You see TS, it's not all bad, if music wasn't so disposable and commercialised it might still be like the above.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:16 PM   #16
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You see TS, it's not all bad, if music wasn't so disposable and commercialised it might still be like the above.

I wasn't advocating for a return to that, just stating matter of factly that the perception that this is how it's always been (or will be) is very simply wrong.

However, if that kind of 19th century fervor to art is extreme, then so is the modern passiveness.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:43 PM   #17
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This is not at all supposed to divide this topic based on sex or sexism but I've found in my experience all the guy friends I make are listeners of the album, all my girl friends are the pop chart single fans. It simply may be that it's just my personal experience but when I lived on the west coast I found the same exact hypothesis to test true.

I'm not at all trying to say girls are what is creating disposable music or harming the industry, its just a distinction between male and female listeners I've found and I'm sure there are exceptions but I just haven't been seeing them.
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I wasn't advocating for a return to that, just stating matter of factly that the perception that this is how it's always been (or will be) is very simply wrong.

However, if that kind of 19th century fervor to art is extreme, then so is the modern passiveness.


I was talking about the commercialism in music, not the history of music.
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Old 12-05-2012, 05:08 PM   #19
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In pop music I would say that has always been true minus a few exceptions eg. MJ.
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Old 12-05-2012, 05:26 PM   #20
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Its not even about songwriting now its about creating an image and hyping the living hell out of it, so yeah music has been and always will be disposable. Even in the day's of Beethoven music was fairly disposable, I'm sure there were a lot of flash in the pan composers/performers that had to conform to a certain standard.
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