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Old 12-05-2012, 09:26 PM   #41
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:28 PM   #42
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Trust me, if I were to review albums, I'd be much worse. I'm already too over-critical of the songs that I write (which is why I never get shit done).

I have a friend who writes generic metalcore who always gets pissy whenever I give him my honest opinion on his music. It all sounds so bland and stamped out it's not funny, and it all follows what I call the modern-metal/metalcore "grid".

You seem to enjoy subjective facts.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:28 PM   #43
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This is some pretty good djent.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:32 PM   #44
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...So then it's just two-string metal?
Yes. Except "Djent" sounds cooler. Like it sounds Russian or something, which gives it a factor of technical-ness, or something along those lines.

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You seem to enjoy subjective facts.
Like I said, it's why I can never get shit done, music related.

I've thrown away so many songs I've written because of how stupid and generic they sound to my ears.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:38 PM   #45
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Yes. Except "Djent" sounds cooler. Like it sounds Russian or something, which gives it a factor of technical-ness, or something along those lines.


...Why not just call it metal?

This is one of the things that always bugged me about metal is that it seems like every single band has its own genre. For a subgenre, it has way too many subgenres of bands that sound ridiculously similar to anyone but diehard fans.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:38 PM   #46
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:43 PM   #47
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Now I understand "Screamo" actually is an actual genre, but it's really annoying that the term has been used for idiots to describe harshly-sung music. Like some dumb bitch I dealt with a few weeks ago who heard Opeth and said "OMG THIS IS SOOO SCREAMO LOLOLL!!".


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Old 12-05-2012, 09:44 PM   #48
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All I know is, my opinion and everyone I know in person's on "djent" is the same as our opinion on modern "prog metal"(Periphery, BTBAM, Protest The Hero, Corelia, Scale The Summit etc. etc.). I don't like it and everyone else is completely obsessed. Sorta nice if they'd differentiate it from 80s prog metal like Savatage and Crimson Glory though. Little bit of a difference between Savatage and Periphery...JUUUUUUUUUUUUST a little.
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...Why not just call it metal?

This is one of the things that always bugged me about metal is that it seems like every single band has its own genre. For a subgenre, it has way too many subgenres of bands that sound ridiculously similar to anyone but diehard fans.

It can't just be called 'metal' because there are millions of bands that fall under that category. You've got to have some kind of organization in a genre otherwise nobody would ever find what kind of metal they are looking for.

Djent seems to be becoming more and more of a genre in it's own right these days, not strictly because of the music, but because of fans who want to see a certain style as being special. I think that the more Djent bands are out there, the more evident the differences will become though, so it may well become a legit genre in it's own right. Not calling it a genre now is too early days, Djent has only been recognized in the metal underground as a genre very, very recently.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:50 PM   #50
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Yes. Except "Djent" sounds cooler. Like it sounds Russian or something, which gives it a factor of technical-ness, or something along those lines.

Like I said, it's why I can never get shit done, music related.

I've thrown away so many songs I've written because of how stupid and generic they sound to my ears.


I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that you were one of the creepy, obnoxious metal head kids in school, not the quiet, shoot-up-the-school type, but the annoying type that tells people who listen to hip-hop/pop/anything that isn't metal that they have bad taste in music, the type that everyone hates.
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I <3 djent bands w/ screamo vocals like Whitechapel and Chelsea Grin.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:54 PM   #52
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I'm gonna just leave this here...

Djent is NOT a genre.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:55 PM   #53
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I <3 djent bands w/ screamo vocals like Whitechapel and Chelsea Grin.


This is progressive, djent screamo.


edit: ^ Screamo is a genre, silly. It's emo w/ screamed (not growled or guttural, literally yelled/screamed) vocals.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:56 PM   #54
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I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that you were one of the creepy, obnoxious metal head kids in school, not the quiet, shoot-up-the-school type, but the annoying type that tells people who listen to hip-hop/pop/anything that isn't metal that they have bad taste in music, the type that everyone hates.




Such trivial shit TS, why you mad?
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:01 PM   #55
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I'm gonna just leave this here...

Djent is NOT a genre.

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I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that you were one of the creepy, obnoxious metal head kids in school, not the quiet, shoot-up-the-school type, but the annoying type that tells people who listen to hip-hop/pop/anything that isn't metal that they have bad taste in music, the type that everyone hates.
Worse than that, unfortunately. Though I didn't tell people who listened to rap/whatever they were wrong, just make the assumption they were tone-deaf idiots and move along.


Me, I'd simply laugh in the faces of anyone who tried to show me the "AWESOME" new song by some generic generic-core bands and claim how "amazing" the musicianship was, when it all just consisted of the same generic progressions and structures of everything else you hear today in modern metal/metalcore. Minus my freshmen year, as I was into Metalcore for a bit. Then got tired of it. Quick.


And I'd laugh even harder when they'd be totally clueless and oblivious when I'd mention a blues guitarist like SRV, or if I would I'd try to mention some older Classic/Founding bands, like Zeppelin or Cream.

For real, it's amazing how many of those kids have no fucking clue who Clapton, Page, or Hendrix is. Metal wouldn't even be an OBJECT if it weren't for these guys. But hey, "DAT AWESOME NEW TRACK BY KSE! YOU GOTTA HEAR IT!" That's all that went through their minds.
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Worse than that, unfortunately. Though I didn't tell people who listened to rap/whatever they were wrong, just make the assumption they were tone-deaf idiots and move along.


Me, I'd simply laugh in the faces of anyone who tried to show me the "AWESOME" new song by some generic generic-core bands and claim how "amazing" the musicianship was, when it all just consisted of the same generic progressions and structures of everything else you hear today in modern metal/metalcore. Minus my freshmen year, as I was into Metalcore for a bit. Then got tired of it. Quick.


And I'd laugh even harder when they'd be totally clueless and oblivious when I'd mention a blues guitarist like SRV, or if I would I'd try to mention some older Classic/Founding bands, like Zeppelin or Cream.

For real, it's amazing how many of those kids have no fucking clue who Clapton, Page, or Hendrix is. Metal wouldn't even be an OBJECT if it weren't for these guys. But hey, "DAT AWESOME NEW TRACK BY KSE! YOU GOTTA HEAR IT!" That's all that went through their minds.


I think you just proved me more right than I hoped you would. Thanks, I guess.

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This is my favorite part.
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All I know is, my opinion and everyone I know in person's on "djent" is the same as our opinion on modern "prog metal"(Periphery, BTBAM, Protest The Hero, Corelia, Scale The Summit etc. etc.). I don't like it and everyone else is completely obsessed. Sorta nice if they'd differentiate it from 80s prog metal like Savatage and Crimson Glory though. Little bit of a difference between Savatage and Periphery...JUUUUUUUUUUUUST a little.

Oh god you're just as bad.
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I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that you were one of the creepy, obnoxious metal head kids in school, not the quiet, shoot-up-the-school type, but the annoying type that tells people who listen to hip-hop/pop/anything that isn't metal that they have bad taste in music, the type that everyone hates.

lol, this. Hip hop is great and so is pop. There's a lot of musicianship to be found in both genres but I guess if some metalhead moron doesn't want to find it he certainly will not. It's funny because a lot of metal bands have songs that are little more than power chord progressions and people like TS would still swoon over the exceptional musicianship.
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For real, it's amazing how many of those kids have no fucking clue who Clapton, Page, or Hendrix is. Metal wouldn't even be an OBJECT if it weren't for these guys. But hey, "DAT AWESOME NEW TRACK BY KSE! YOU GOTTA HEAR IT!" That's all that went through their minds.

James Clerk Maxwell formed the basis of a lot of what I study and work on and I know next to nothing about him. However, it doesn't hinder my understanding or enjoyment. In short, it doesn't matter and nobody cares. I have about as much respect for you as I do for the average historian who thinks he's smarter than everyone else.
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This is my favorite part.

Me too.
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still think djent is a genre. a sub-genre of metal of course, but still a genre.
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