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Old 12-05-2012, 10:14 PM   #61
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lol, this. Hip hop is great and so is pop. There's a lot of musicianship to be found in both genres but I guess if some metalhead moron doesn't want to find it he certainly will not. It's funny because a lot of metal bands have songs that are little more than power chord progressions and people like TS would still swoon over the exceptional musicianship.


I agree 100%
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:14 PM   #62
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what a stupid name for a genre.. djent
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:17 PM   #63
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Worse than that, unfortunately. Though I didn't tell people who listened to rap/whatever they were wrong, just make the assumption they were tone-deaf idiots and move along.


Me, I'd simply laugh in the faces of anyone who tried to show me the "AWESOME" new song by some generic generic-core bands and claim how "amazing" the musicianship was, when it all just consisted of the same generic progressions and structures of everything else you hear today in modern metal/metalcore. Minus my freshmen year, as I was into Metalcore for a bit. Then got tired of it. Quick.


And I'd laugh even harder when they'd be totally clueless and oblivious when I'd mention a blues guitarist like SRV, or if I would I'd try to mention some older Classic/Founding bands, like Zeppelin or Cream.

For real, it's amazing how many of those kids have no fucking clue who Clapton, Page, or Hendrix is. Metal wouldn't even be an OBJECT if it weren't for these guys. But hey, "DAT AWESOME NEW TRACK BY KSE! YOU GOTTA HEAR IT!" That's all that went through their minds.


I hold the opinion that Killswitch Engage > Led Zeppelin and Judas Priest. Wanna fight about t?

OT: I've never heard anyone mention Djent in person, let alone label it something it 100% is not. That's a very hard thing to do, given that the label only fits on a very limited set of modern Metal music that doesn't go anywhere else.

Now some, like in this thread, would mention how it's part of "Progressive Metal", but this is silly since the general aesthetic of "prog metal" is more akin Dream Theater than it is to Meshuggah. I will admit, however, that I have qualms with the label "Progressive Metal" being a sub-genre in and of itself, but I digress.

Djent is a niche of Metal music that caters to people who love polyrhythyms, catchy riffs, and Meshuggah.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:17 PM   #64
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what a stupid name for a genre.. djent


It sounds like a strange, Swedish cereal.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:27 PM   #65
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:31 PM   #66
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Worse than that, unfortunately. Though I didn't tell people who listened to rap/whatever they were wrong, just make the assumption they were tone-deaf idiots and move along.


Me, I'd simply laugh in the faces of anyone who tried to show me the "AWESOME" new song by some generic generic-core bands and claim how "amazing" the musicianship was, when it all just consisted of the same generic progressions and structures of everything else you hear today in modern metal/metalcore. Minus my freshmen year, as I was into Metalcore for a bit. Then got tired of it. Quick.


And I'd laugh even harder when they'd be totally clueless and oblivious when I'd mention a blues guitarist like SRV, or if I would I'd try to mention some older Classic/Founding bands, like Zeppelin or Cream.

For real, it's amazing how many of those kids have no fucking clue who Clapton, Page, or Hendrix is. Metal wouldn't even be an OBJECT if it weren't for these guys. But hey, "DAT AWESOME NEW TRACK BY KSE! YOU GOTTA HEAR IT!" That's all that went through their minds.

Come on, man. You are being kinda silly.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:34 PM   #67
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I think you just proved me more right than I hoped you would. Thanks, I guess.
Aside from focusing on a completely different principle than what you described. You described the stereotypical "HAIL SATAN! DEATH TO ALL BUT METAL!" kid. I'm not that. Subjectively worse, but certainly not that.


In my opinion, if one don't know jack shit about what they are listening to or has no respect for the far, far superior genres of classic rock and blues, the genres that established it all, I'm just going to assume you're an immature little cunt who's only listening to heavy and aggressive music to set an image.


And you know them when you see them: always wearing all black, baggy black pants with chains, have greasy, un-maintained, unmanaged long hair they wear in their faces, eyeliner, and they all play B.C. Rich Warlocks and Line 6 Spiders and post gay ass Facebook statuses such as "Music is my life" and "Play till fingers bleed" when they can only play All That Remains and A7X songs at 1/4 tempo that they learned strictly from UG tabs.


I made a guy get all pissy off and storm out of the room the other day from expressing beliefs similar to this. I just sat there with a smirk on my face and thought to myself "don't worry, you'll mature eventually."


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Old 12-05-2012, 10:36 PM   #68
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Aside from focusing on a completely different principle than what you described. You described the stereotypical "HAIL SATAN! DEATH TO ALL BUT METAL!" kid. I'm not that. Subjectively worse, but certainly not that.


No. That is not what I was describing. I was describing the metal head that throws his obnoxious opinions into others' faces.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:38 PM   #69
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I made a guy get all pissy off and storm out of the room the other day from expressing beliefs similar to this. I just sat there with a smirk on my face and thought to myself "don't worry, you'll mature eventually."

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In my opinion, if one don't know jack shit about what they are listening to or has no respect for the far, far superior genres of classic rock and blues, the genres that established it all, I'm just going to assume you're an immature little cunt who's only listening to heavy and aggressive music to set an image.


quick, who invented the guitar? no google allowed.

don't know? yeah, you're just trying to "set an image"
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No. That is not what I was describing. I was describing the metal head that throws his obnoxious opinions into others' faces.
But can that not apply to any genre fan? I've heard that Jazz elitists are 10x worse, except that they're right in their opinion, because jazz actually is musically superior. As a metal listener I'm not afraid to admit this.

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quick, who invented the guitar? no google allowed.

don't know? yeah, you're just trying to "set an image"
Fuck, I used to know this. I know it can be traced back to the Lute, but that's about it. And I know it evolved from there.

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Old 12-05-2012, 10:43 PM   #72
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But can that not apply to any genre fan? I've heard that Jazz elitists are 10x worse, except that they're right in their opinion, because jazz actually is musically superior. As a metal listener I'm not afraid to admit this.


They aren't worse because they are practically nonexistent in the real world.
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Fuck, I used to know this. I know it can be traced back to the Lute, but that's about it. And I know it evolved from there.


how can you even claim to like rock music, including metal music, if you don't know the history of the instrument that drives it home? immature, if you ask me.
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But can that not apply to any genre fan? I've heard that Jazz elitists are 10x worse, except that they're right in their opinion, because jazz actually is musically superior. As a metal listener I'm not afraid to admit this.


Oh hell no, not this "musically superior" shit again.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:46 PM   #75
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:49 PM   #76
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Aside from focusing on a completely different principle than what you described. You described the stereotypical "HAIL SATAN! DEATH TO ALL BUT METAL!" kid. I'm not that. Subjectively worse, but certainly not that.


In my opinion, if one don't know jack shit about what they are listening to or has no respect for the far, far superior genres of classic rock and blues, the genres that established it all, I'm just going to assume you're an immature little cunt who's only listening to heavy and aggressive music to set an image.


And you know them when you see them: always wearing all black, baggy black pants with chains, have greasy, un-maintained, unmanaged long hair they wear in their faces, eyeliner, and they all play B.C. Rich Warlocks and Line 6 Spiders and post gay ass Facebook statuses such as "Music is my life" and "Play till fingers bleed" when they can only play All That Remains and A7X songs at 1/4 tempo that they learned strictly from UG tabs.


I made a guy get all pissy off and storm out of the room the other day from expressing beliefs similar to this. I just sat there with a smirk on my face and thought to myself "don't worry, you'll mature eventually."


You know me man, I'm a dick. I can't help it.


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Oh Lawdy, the irony


actually scratch that, TS has to be trolling at this point.

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They aren't worse because they are practically nonexistent in the real world.
You don't get out much, do you?
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You don't get out much, do you?


What? You made no sense there. Jazz elitists exist on internet forums. They don't walk around in suits and cool hats while smoking reefer and spouting off their opinions about jazz.
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Ok, which one's the Jazz and which one's the Djent?
Stupid ass musical superiority arguments.

Only Ian can answer. Or anybody that seriously doesn't know.
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