Xiaoxi

http://www.ted.com/talks/james_howa...s_suburbia.html

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slipknot5678

Suburbs are awful. I can't think of a single good thing they do for society. And if there is one, I'll just dismiss due to my confirmation bias.

Large cities are my thing, but legitimate small cities (I'm thinking around 40,000) that aren't built with suburbs and urban sprawl in mind are good in their own way.

Edit: Assuming I stay in America I've put serious consideration into becoming an urban planner.

Hydra150

That an idea worth spreading.

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Xiaoxi

Oh yea, big, small, doesn't matter. Cities are the way to go. Anything but goddamn suburbia.

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WCPhils

I would ****ing hate to live in the city

Ther're so loud and dirty and there are too many ****ing people, most of who are gross.

Is it fun to go into and do things? Hell yea

But live? Not my thing at all.

I'm kinda in the middle ground though. I can be in the middle of the city in 20 minutes by train or car if I wanted to.

Maybe that's why I feel that way. Best of both worlds


I like being outside with grass and trees and places to bike and stuff

Philip_pepper

Spain man.

But like, you'd need, like, at least 3000 euros a month there to live awesomely. Problem being the high unemployment and all that.

But hell man, nice beaches, nice food, nice weather, nice architecture, different language.

Imagine having a nice house with a pool there, close to a big city like Barcelona or some shit.

That'd be the life of puta madre.

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Thrashtastic15

large city life for most of your life would suck ass. the suburbs are safe, quiet, clean, and just generally better places to raise a family. if you want entertainment you can take a train into the city.

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Oh. Well. I'd try Norway. They have high salaries (expensive country too).

But I'd just save up as much money as possible and then retire in Spain.

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Hydra150

you guys should still watch that ted talk. It's not just a rant against suburbia, it's about shitty city planning and architecture. I found it interesting.

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Thrashtastic15

i dont care about those things, so no i shouldnt.

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slipknot5678

If I want safe and quiet I'll live in a rural town (I don't mean a random house in the middle of no where just so we're clear). Suburbs are detrimental to society and capture the true essence of neither urban or rural environments. Really they're just sad and lonely (although they are safe).



Yeah I'm enjoying it. Poor urban planning is one of the worst aspects of North America. When I say it it sounds like a first world problem (which it is) but he explains it better.

WCPhils

How are they detrimental?

Hydra150

I guess because they don't encourage a sense of community, people often don't mingle with their neighbours.

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Xiaoxi

because they're not places worth caring about, which has wide reaching consequences.


More than that, there is no culture or activity. Think of the worst of American suburbia in the midwest. What's the image? Obese Christian conservatives without any sense of culture or intellect. Place has a big role in harboring all of these issues.

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Netherlands.

I've been there once and it was coo

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slipknot5678

Urban sprawl and poor urban planning is the main reason why. Suburbs tend to take up way more space than they need to, are built wherever people feel like, make it impossible to not own a car, etc.

And again, it's a bit first world problem-ish, but as the TED speaker pointed out, they're not worth caring about. The closest thing to a public centre here is the local Wal-mart. It's a safe, but at the same time sad environment.



I live in a small suburb just outside of a gated community, and the next nearest suburbs are three miles away. None of these places have a community centre of any sort.

WCPhils

How do cities do that?

Everyone I know who has lived in a city hated every single person around them.


um, I think it's a bit different here...

Because I live in a suburb and it sounds nothing like that. Every town is connected. I guess because they're older maybe


Also, what do you mean by community or public center?

Hydra150

I'm not sure if it's as safe for for ones mental health.
For some people, at least.

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slipknot5678

The TED video explains how that's largely an American problem. Although it doesn't apply to all American cities and there are places outside of America I could say the same about.

Basically our cities (with some exceptions) are built like suburbs; no community centre, too spread out, and not worth caring about.