Wolfinator-x

I like Canada. Otherwise, meh. Oceania seems like a pretty cool continent. I don't think I'd live in the USA or in Europe however.

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WCPhils

Fine!

Thrashtastic15

Ha, not at all pal.

The suburbs aren't attempting to capture the "true" essence of urban or rural environments. That isn't a fault against them. They capture all of the positives of urban life (nightlife, entertainment options, shopping, etc etc etc) while removing all of the negative aspects over residing in the city 24/7. I can get smack dab in the middle of Toronto in 45 minutes from my parents house taking the train. However my parents house is in the second or third safest city in all of Canada, is incredibly clean, streets clearly laid out and easy to navigate, much prettier and homelier, and retains many of the aspects that make rural towns attractive. The schools are far, far better and more convenient and I can be sitting in a forest looking at a glistening lake in a 20 minute drive from my parents house.

The commute isn't even a pain because more and more companies have large offices outside of Toronto itself in areas such as Mississauga making the commute much, much easier on people. My mom has that circumstance.

But okay.

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I wouldn't mind living in HK just for the food omg but I don't think I'd get a job there, life there seems even more competitive than it is here (which is saying something), and I don't like the sound of canto and it seems shitty to live somewhere because you like it but not bother to learn the language. I would love to visit soon though. it looks really pretty (both the city and nature areas)

as for suburbs, can't say much since I've never lived in one, only visited family who live in them, but I feel very uncomfortable if I'm not in a city where stuff is happening all the time or an extremely secluded quiet part of nature. I guess suburbs aren't exactly boring but I'm probably just used to constant activity or something. I don't want to travel for more than 20 minutes to get somewhere to do stuff and if I do, it has to be a really special thing. There is no excuse for me to be bored here and I like that. As for safety, why can't we just make the cities safer rather than relying on suburbs :/

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WCPhils

Yea, I turned it off

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Yea.

Sounds about the same as where I live though maybe a tad richer.

Xiaoxi

Almost every suburban "plaza" center I've encountered feels extremely artificial. They don't have the real tenacity or value of the urban equivalent. Not to mention they are almost always comprised solely of mediocre chains.

Where I live now meets and probably exceeds all of the pros you just listed. It's still suffocatingly spare and artificial.

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There's plenty of community. I exchanged baked goods with my neighbours when they moved in/throughout the Holiday season, look after each others plants/newspapers/animals when they are away on vacation, say hi and chat when you walk past them, let them know if their hose is leaking or something, etc etc. Even shovel the driveway/rake leaves for the older folk who have trouble for whatever reason rather than having them pay for someone to do it.

The suburbs aren't the cause of people being unkind. Your culture is.

^ you have the benefits of the city because the city is connected to the suburb. I can take the train and be in the smac kdab of downtown Toronto in 40-45 minutes making all station stops. idiot.

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I'd go to Costa Rica because it's the most badass of all the countries. And they abolished their military in like 1948 or something like that! Talk about badass.

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WCPhils

Exactly

If I lived in the city it would take me just as long to walk anywhere anyway.

Xiaoxi

Being near and being immersed in are two completely different experiences. I've lived in both in substantial time to know that.

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Thrashtastic15

btw i live in the city now and have lived in the city lol so dont even try that pal being immersed has negatives associated with being in the city its not a ****ing positive

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WCPhils

I don't live in the city but I'm there for about 8-10 (or more) hours everyday for school.

Hydra150

Indeed.

quoting just because you edited it in and some may have missed and i found it interesting

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slipknot5678

There is no train where I live. Where I used to live there was a bus and the train station was an hour walk away. Not coincidentally, that suburb was better than the one I live in now, despite not being near as rich or clean. My main point is that better urban planning makes for a better environment. If we focused our energy into improving the cities to be cleaner and more sustainable while representing our culture it would be better than just building more spread out shit wherever we feel like.


Or at best this:


Edit: And of course the city isn't all positives.

raoooos

Ha, shit got derailed.

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Hydra150

Made that paragraph a bit more concise for ya, bro. You're welcome.

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Xiaoxi

Clealiness depends on the city. It's not automatically dirty. Places like HK, Singapore, most Aus cities, Boston, and smaller cities are pretty clean.

Good urban planning also create centers for nature, if you're into that.

Not relying on a car does wonders for health and well being. The city population generally has a much lower obesity rate and higher levels of education.

Despite what you say about easily getting to Toronto in 45 minutes (that's actually kind of shit by my standards), this is often not the case in many suburbs. Residents of many suburbs have a vested interest in not developing easy to access public transportation for fear that minorities will come in and cheapen their real estate value. True story.

Crime rate also depends on the city. But for many years now, the center of illegal drug manufacturing has been in American suburbs.

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Thrashtastic15

Burlington's "downtown" is a just a slightly more "old timey" attempted area w/ a theatre, a bunch of stores, and a few random little art places, museums, and ofc city hall, and a sweet park thats awesome to chill at and gets some pretty solid free events every year.



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Can't really get any good pictures of the rest because it's much more cramped streets than anywhere else and it's pretty well concealed by all of the trees. But it's certainly not a bloody Wal Mart. Maybe you shouldn't paint your shitty, cheap, poor suburbs in with respectable ones.

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^not necessarily poor, just poorly planned

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