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Old 12-06-2012, 04:16 AM   #61
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All I can see happening is maybe a few special forces raids or maybe some bombs dropped.

Russia and China wont get involved over something like this as there economies rely on America. The Russians don't care what happens as long as they can keep their naval base.
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:22 AM   #62
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:29 AM   #63
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:42 AM   #64
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Glad you are okay Ali.

I am one of those Americans that believe in helping if necessary, despite criticism from others. Despite how it will affect our relations with the other (seemingly) soul-less, apathetic superpowers.

How do you feel about intervention on your behalf? And do you think there is a lot of propaganda going around, especially in the U.S. regarding this, possibly as a play to keep money going into our military by Republicans?
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:49 AM   #65
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Glad you are okay Ali.

I am one of those Americans that believe in helping if necessary, despite criticism from others. Despite how it will affect our relations with the other (seemingly) soul-less, apathetic superpowers.

How do you feel about intervention on your behalf? And do you think there is a lot of propaganda going around, especially in the U.S. regarding this, possibly as a play to keep money going into our military by Republicans?

Thank you.


I don't think intervention is good, countries like the US should keep their noses out of our business and stop bullying my country into the ground just so they can arm a few people and then come in and take the oil we have. Of course it's all a propaganda play, because the US obviously just needs more weapons and oil, so that's really what this is about, not some "revolution", that's a lie.
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:51 AM   #66
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This line of reasoning was pretty much the only good rationalisation for Iraq too, the problem was it went too far.


It would have been a good reason, but it served only as an excuse to justify the war, which was all about nonexistent WMDs.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:06 AM   #67
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**** me. Read an article the other day saying Assad had very few options for getting out of Damascus alive.

As far as intervention goes, it would be a lot harder than you'd expect. I'm really not sure there's the appetite for that scale of intervention, really, unless there was a strong enough risk of the weapons falling into the wrong hands.

On the other hand, that might be an intervention that could finally not all be up to NATO - I daresay Russia wouldn't like the Chechens getting hold of nerve gas.

Whatever happens, this isn't going to be pretty.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:07 AM   #68
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Well, according to Ali, who I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt, nothing's going to happen so intervention won't be necessary at all.

Let's see this one through, and just see what happens.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:09 AM   #69
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Its a misconception that we need oil. We have vast untapped resources in our own nation that make that argument obsolete. Oil has never been a reward for our efforts, nor appreciation. But perhaps I've been naive regarding what is being reported as going on there. To my credit, however, its not as if the "propaganda" is coming from only one source or nation, who also have "oil issues."

So, there is no chance of genocide. Really glad to hear it and to see you back and safe.

I hope we stay out of it and let you guys do what you gotta do for yourselves. Nothing like hearing the opinion of someone directly involved to sway my vote.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:17 AM   #70
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I know the feeling. Growing up during the cold war, hiding under our desks when an air raid siren blasted through the air of our second grade classroom, made one contemplate longevity and the importance of little things.

I hope that if help is needed, it will be accepted, and know it will always be available. We were once there ourselves. France and Spain might have had their own motives during the revolutionary war, but the greater good is what we remember.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:21 AM   #71
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I'm hoping this is just a big show on Assad's part with no consequence coming from it.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:23 AM   #72
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Stopped reading right there... I'll show some emotion when a proper news source reports this.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:09 AM   #73
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:16 AM   #74
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December 21st is getting awfully close.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:19 AM   #75
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ha, i was actually thinking about that yesterday.

And i came to the conclusion i should get really drunk or really high on that day.

Should be interesting.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:21 AM   #76
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ha, i was actually thinking about that yesterday.

And i came to the conclusion i should get really drunk or really high on that day.

Should be interesting.

What's with this "or" business?, double down
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:41 AM   #78
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I guess Assad wants to be raped by the international community?

Yeah, something like that.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:49 AM   #79
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Stopped reading right there... I'll show some emotion when a proper news source reports this.
You know I only quoted Fox as saying that the chemicals have about 60 days before the expire, right? The rest is from NBC.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:54 AM   #80
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I don't like the idea of intervention, but if chemical weapons are used I think it's necessary.


Assad is assuring that he won't use them. I tend to think he's telling the truth. If he truly wants to remain in power, it would be a foolish move. There is no chance he keeps his office if he uses those weapons.

I think his chances of retaining office are slim in the long run, but a decision like that would end it immediately.
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