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Old 12-06-2012, 09:51 PM   #21
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No, I think everyone else is just brainwashed. It looks really bad, people just think its good because its new, and "better".

I honestly think that is just ridiculous.

If I'm watching a football game in HD and switch to the same thing in SD it looks vastly different.

It's not even close really. Like, at all


I think you've just seen really bad tv's or you're not actually watching HD
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:53 PM   #22
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I honestly think that is just ridiculous.

If I'm watching a football game in HD and switch to the same thing in SD it looks vastly different.

It's not even close really. Like, at all


I think you've just seen really bad tv's or you're not actually watching HD


He may be watching something in 30 fps rather than the standard 24 from the sounds of what he is saying.

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See, I don't get Blu-ray and HD and stuff. People make this big fuss about it, but honestly, I think Blu-ray makes everything look like it was recorded on a shitty amateur camcorder. And all the lighting looks like a Soap Opera. Why is that good?


Sounds like the standard complaints of something that is >=30fps
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:54 PM   #23
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I know what he means. My family's tv is HD and whenever I watch a program (rarely since I live 150 miles away) it looks like some low budget sci-fi film's camera.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:55 PM   #24
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He may be watching something in 30 fps rather than the standard 24 from the sounds of what he is saying.



Sounds like the standard complaints of something that is >=30fps

Yea, didn't think of that. 30FPS is weird

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I know what he means. My family's tv is HD and whenever I watch a program (rarely since I live 150 miles away) it looks like some low budget sci-fi film's camera.

Do they actually have HD programming? Just because it is an HD TV doesn't mean everything is in HD. You usually have to pay extra for HD channels.

I know so many people who did not this. That's why I'm asking.

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Old 12-06-2012, 09:57 PM   #25
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I'm calling nonsense as well, Django. It's one thing for some people to not be able to see the difference. It's another to think that a higher resolution somehow makes something look works. If the hdtvs your seeing are magically making something look worse it's because you're not actually watching something hd on it. And I'm not sure how you're getting that hd would have any effect on lighting.

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I know what he means. My family's tv is HD and whenever I watch a program (rarely since I live 150 miles away) it looks like some low budget sci-fi film's camera.


Your family doesn't have hd programming. They are basically using a presumably large tv to stretch out a tiny crappy picture.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:02 PM   #26
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Your family doesn't have hd programming. They are basically using a presumably large tv to stretch out a tiny crappy picture.

Exactly

SD stuff actually looks worse on HD TV's most of the time because it's all stretched. It's HD or nothing on them.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:03 PM   #27
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TV's nowadays all have these special settings that artificially increases the frame rate so that motion onscreen is almost seamless. It's awesome for sporting events, but it makes everything else, especially super hi-def stuff like blu-rays, look like a soap opera. You just have to turn that setting off, or dial it down. Every brand has their own name for these settings, and all the TVs come with it turned on of course, because in the shop it makes whatever's on the TV look unbelievably clear. Google "my TV turns everything into a soap opera"
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:04 PM   #28
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not only is the image quality better (1080p) but also the refesh rate. Most LCD/LED computer monitors have a refresh rate of 60hz which is standard also NTSC DVDs work with a 60hz refresh rate, but some HDTV screen & blu-rays support the double (120hz). Higher refresh rate means more frames per second.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:08 PM   #29
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Yea, didn't think of that. 30FPS is weird


Do they actually have HD programming? Just because it is an HD TV doesn't mean everything is in HD. You usually have to pay extra for HD channels.

I know so many people who did not this. That's why I'm asking.



Yea, they do, but I think you're right because I dont really watch the HD channels.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:10 PM   #30
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not only is the image quality better (1080p) but also the refesh rate. Most LCD/LED computer monitors have a refresh rate of 60hz which is standard also NTSC DVDs work with a 60hz refresh rate, but some HDTV screen & blu-rays support the double (120hz). Higher refresh rate means more frames per second.

If thats the case, then this is that "sci-fi and soap opera" look the others were complaining about.

Soap operas are displayed in 30fps. It makes the screen look flat and weird because we are so used to 24fps and theres a very slight flow lag.

It seems like the picture is cheaper, when its actually the opposite
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:11 PM   #31
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I love science fiction movies, blu ray has made some of my favorite movies even more enjoyable. Seriously; Starship Troopers on the blu is incredible.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:14 PM   #32
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I want one of those 3D HD TV's so I can try out some of my 3D compatable PS3 games like Shadow of the Colossus which is probably going to be amazing 3D.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:18 PM   #33
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:18 PM   #34
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I agree with the soap opera affect. Everytime I walk into bestbuy or walmart, the movies they play look strange, and low-budget. Fight scenes look extremely fake, and you can tell the characters aren't really hitting eachother.

On the other hand, It makes anything animated look godly.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:20 PM   #35
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:23 PM   #36
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not only is the image quality better (1080p) but also the refesh rate. Most LCD/LED computer monitors have a refresh rate of 60hz which is standard also NTSC DVDs work with a 60hz refresh rate, but some HDTV screen & blu-rays support the double (120hz). Higher refresh rate means more frames per second.

Close, but not exactly the best way to phrase it imo.
I like to reference this whenever explaining refresh mates to people. It's more like the speed at which frames distinguish themselves from another, so the frames don't blur. But excessively they can really screw with your eyes.

To add to this, The Hobbit was filmed in 48 fps, and tons of people (but defs not the majority) didn't like it.
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I don't have that problem on the PS3


That's because your games are on blu ray.
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Alright, it must be the higher refresh rate. Like I said, not my tv. And I said Blu-ray and HD tv together, so obviously I wasn't talking about SD content.
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4 times the definition is a pretty big deal. If you own an HD television and you don't have HD equipment hooked up to it you wasted your money. Also, it won't be too long before there are no more dvds, blu rays only, so if you keep buying dvds you're wasting your money.

And calling it expensive is non sense. Blu ray players aren't expensive anymore, and I've paid less than 10$ for most of my blu rays. For brand new releases, maybe 20$

If you've got an internet connection and you're buying dvds you're wasting your money.
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