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gah why do you keep calling the jca a fake.

it's literally a slo made in china with cheaper parts, designed by mike.

a bugera is a fake that's reversed engineered and made with leftover garbage.

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yeah

But yeah I mean I sorta know what you're saying- the "designed by mike" soldano bit maybe looks cheap. All I'm saying is the bugera *is* cheap, and beggars can't be choosers. I mean- of course the jet city is made to a budget, too- I don't want to oversell the thing. But I don't think (and hopefully min and cath will confirm) it's made anywhere near as cheaply as the bugera stuff.

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This thread is funny as hell.

TS do you under stand that JCA 20/50/100/100HDM are actually designed by Soldano, and not anyone else. So they are the real deal amps.

PS there is no Jet City that is a SLO 100. The JCA20 is a budget Soldano Astroverb and the 50/100 are budget versions of the HR Avenger not the SLO 100

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gregs1020

exactly what i was going to say.

+1.

JesusCrisp

On the Egnater-side of things:

I'm the happy owner of a Rebel 30 and I can tell you it's a really nice little amp. LOTS of different tones you can get out of it, very nice clean sound - you can dial it in both very warm and jazzy or crystal clear and glassy with the tight and bright switches and the EQ.
The OD channel is awesome as well IMO but kind of hard to describe. It definitely resembles a classic kind of rock tone with tight and bright on, but not quite like a Marshall, as I said, hard to describe. It feels and sounds less dry and more chewy than the Marshalls that I played.
Now, the higher you set the gain, the more grungy it sounds. Anything past 2-3 o'clock sounds really fat, almost Recto-ish with the tight-switch off.
For metal stuff you definately need a boost IMO, mostly for tightening up the amp, but it certainly would work.

Tried a Tweaker 40 combo as well. It certainly is even more tweakable than the Rebel, had too little time with it too really do in-depth tweaking though. However, my overall impressions are: the Tweaker is tighter and drier sounding (might have to do with the speaker as well though) which people might or might not like. It's very 'vintage' or 'classic' sounding as well, but in a different way. Didn't find as nice cleans as with the Rebel though.
Also I had the feeling that the Tweaker has less gain than the Rebel.

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tweaker ain't got much gain at all. cuts off at bon jovi.

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Cat Bon Jovi you say?

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In response to the response of my earlier post (which is somewhat aged now).
I was mainly thinking of the Hayden Mofo, H&K Tubemeister, Egnater Rebel/Tweaker and Marshall DSL.
Furthermore I have just realised that you never conclusively said 'no' to used only that you would rather try and amp before buying it. Which country are you in? We could possibly find a second hand amp there that you could try...

There should be no reason why you can't dial in the same sounds through the JC JCA50 and 100, however because of different power valves and the lack of a resonance control (I think) it will sound different.

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gregs1020

mine had plenty more than you hear in bon jovi tunes.

i don't think bon jovi is really a definable "cut off" point.

whoomit

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ihartfood

gregs it was sorta sarcasm haha but still, cuts off in the "hard rock" territory.

and the cat video

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i got ya.

but "hard rock" is such a subjective thing. it's like "metal".

definitions of genres are so tough to nail down because everyone has a different definition in their head for what any particular genre is to them.

i mean, we all try to convey what we are thinking and typing words to describe sounds is a tough thing to do in a way to really get the intended meaning across accurately.

one man's metal is another man's classic rock is another man's hard rock is another man's thrash is...

gumbilicious

no behringer owns bugera. i always thought they made the bugera name to distance themselves from the behringer name.

Jet city collaborates with really good amp designers and makes budget models with them, offering good tone with a little less features. Bugera blatantly reverse engineers amps with no permission and then produces them for as cheap as possible.

you'd best be served by actually trying some of these amps out before you buy them instead of just using your 'gut feeling' on evaluating them.

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$600 will buy one hell of a good used amp in the US so this whole conversation is ludicrous on so many levels it's quite a feat.

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gumbilicious

that is the way i feel. so much good stuff out there for 600 usd and he is strictly comparing JC to bugera. it also seems like he is trying to make the decision based on popular consensus and gut feeling.

if i had 600 bucks and didn't know anything about amps i'd be trying as many amps out as i could find.

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if I had $600 and didn't know anything about amps I would buy a go kart

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