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Old 12-09-2012, 11:01 PM   #21
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To hell with "fake or not"

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As long as there are no blaring physical defects, or poor craftmanship. If it plays well and sounds good.
Les pauls are somewhat known to have shotty intonation work

... if it plays good... just keep it
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:37 PM   #22
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To hell with "fake or not"

IMO
As long as there are no blaring physical defects, or poor craftmanship. If it plays well and sounds good.
Les pauls are somewhat known to have shotty intonation work

... if it plays good... just keep it



What? Since when?

And if you bought something and it ended up being fake, even if it's okay, it's probably not as good as what they're faking.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:48 PM   #23
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I don't know much about Epiphones, but my guess would be that that is a different model than the Royale, not a counterfeit Epiphone.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:34 AM   #24
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Send the photos to Gibson/Epiphone. They can tell you if it's fake or real. I'm going with fake - not a factory second.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:42 AM   #25
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This is according to Epiphone



Look at the "n" again.


Yep, I see the different logos.....

Once again.....Epi is well known for NOT having their sh!t correct on their website !

Sending pics to Epi is useless, because the original serial# under the sticker is partly scrapped out - Epi was NOT selling this guitar as a new one....
it is a refurbished with lesser warranty than a new one

http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/epi...ead-ii-365.html

ask here ^^ and believe it or not......

http://www.mircweb.com/

this ^^ is where it was refurbished


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Old 12-10-2012, 06:26 PM   #26
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Ok. So, I had a look at the sites Paruwi listed. At first, I was ready to say hogwash, but after having a closer look at the back of the headstock, I think he may be right. TS - Does the word "USED" appear to be stamped in the back of the headstock above the serial number sticker? I had a look at all three photos TS submitted and it looks like something is lightly stamped in the finish just above the sticker. On the third photo, I can almost make out the word "USED." If so, Paruwi is right - this is a refinished/repaired guitar and is authentic.

Now, that brings up another question... If the seller misrepresented the guitar and sold it as a factory prime unit, that is wrong. The guitar should have been represented as a factory second, or refurbished unit. It looks like the gold plated tuners have some corrosion on them, so it's hard to say what they did to it. Based on that, I'd be somewhat tempted to return it. But, that's up to you. If it plays well and you got it for a decent price, then keep it.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:42 PM   #27
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Ok. So, I had a look at the sites Paruwi listed. At first, I was ready to say hogwash, but after having a closer look at the back of the headstock, I think he may be right. TS - Does the word "USED" appear to be stamped in the back of the headstock above the serial number sticker? I had a look at all three photos TS submitted and it looks like something is lightly stamped in the finish just above the sticker. On the third photo, I can almost make out the word "USED." If so, Paruwi is right - this is a refinished/repaired guitar and is authentic.

Now, that brings up another question... If the seller misrepresented the guitar and sold it as a factory prime unit, that is wrong. The guitar should have been represented as a factory second, or refurbished unit. It looks like the gold plated tuners have some corrosion on them, so it's hard to say what they did to it. Based on that, I'd be somewhat tempted to return it. But, that's up to you. If it plays well and you got it for a decent price, then keep it.



Thank You !

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Old 12-10-2012, 06:43 PM   #28
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Ok. So, I had a look at the sites Paruwi listed. At first, I was ready to say hogwash, but after having a closer look at the back of the headstock, I think he may be right. TS - Does the word "USED" appear to be stamped in the back of the headstock above the serial number sticker? I had a look at all three photos TS submitted and it looks like something is lightly stamped in the finish just above the sticker. On the third photo, I can almost make out the word "USED." If so, Paruwi is right - this is a refinished/repaired guitar and is authentic.

Now, that brings up another question... If the seller misrepresented the guitar and sold it as a factory prime unit, that is wrong. The guitar should have been represented as a factory second, or refurbished unit. It looks like the gold plated tuners have some corrosion on them, so it's hard to say what they did to it. Based on that, I'd be somewhat tempted to return it. But, that's up to you. If it plays well and you got it for a decent price, then keep it.


Yeah it does say USED. I am returning the guitar anyways since I wanted the guitar mainly as an eye candy.
Thanks for all the feedback, I learned my lesson and will pay more attention when buying a used guitar.
The previous owner still claims the guitar to be an authentic Epiphone Les Paul Royale and he tells me that my eyes are wrong if I see any corrosion, the pickguard is not necessary since most guitarist take it off and every other flaw the guitar has is the fault of the manufacturer.
He probably has paid the same price for the guitar as I did.
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