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Old 12-12-2012, 07:25 AM   #21
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Seconding Jof's advice on pres.

Also, I think the UX2 doesn't have phantom power anyway...

It does, I'm looking at mine right now xD
People just aren't too keen on it...
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:02 AM   #22
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Must be in the minority, and it's definitely not a bad mic, but I really was a bit underwhelmed by the Rode NT-1A Probably better than most of the other mics in the price range, but the ADK Thor I ended up getting recently is so much nicer. As for your budget TS - if you can stretch for it, I'd recommend the ADK Odin (little brother of the mic I bought) or the sE 2200.
I agree, that's why I suggest suggested the SE Electronics or Studio Projects instead. The ADK looks fantastic too, might actually be my next mic, cheers!

I don't know what it is about the NT-1A, the sound just feels a bit brittle to me. Certainly capable though.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:39 AM   #23
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OK, my Dad has been in contact and told me that he will get my condenser mic as my Christmas present...woo!

He says he works closely with a company called CPC so if they have one I like then he can get it discount from them.

http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/b...matchallpartial

Thats the website - is there anything on there that you guys would reccommend or have any experience with?

If not I might just go with the Rode option

Cheers muchly :-)
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:52 AM   #24
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I'd go with the AT4040 if you dad is willing to go that high. Otherwise, there isn't much on there id go for
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OK, my Dad has been in contact and told me that he will get my condenser mic as my Christmas present...woo!

He says he works closely with a company called CPC so if they have one I like then he can get it discount from them.

http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/b...matchallpartial

Thats the website - is there anything on there that you guys would reccommend or have any experience with?

If not I might just go with the Rode option

Cheers muchly :-)

Actually, the Behringer B-2 PRO is pretty damned good.
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:08 AM   #26
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I've been reading and watching some reviews on the Audio Technica 2030 and they seem to rave about it.

http://cpc.farnell.com/audio-techni...nser/dp/MP34355

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Old 12-13-2012, 09:23 PM   #27
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Checkout the MXL 990 kit,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MXL-990-9...=item20cdcb4d5f

Just under 100 and includes a stick condenser mic as well(991) which can be used to enhance the recording of acoustic guitars.

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Old 12-13-2012, 09:30 PM   #28
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I agree, that's why I suggest suggested the SE Electronics or Studio Projects instead. The ADK looks fantastic too, might actually be my next mic, cheers!

I don't know what it is about the NT-1A, the sound just feels a bit brittle to me. Certainly capable though.

Only just saw this, thanks to the bump above, but yeah - I would highly recommend the Thor (and I presume the Odin is identical, minus the presence boost/cut switch, and I can't remember if the polar pattern is switchable, like the Thor, or a fixed cardioid.

I agree about the NT-1A, definitely sounds overly present and harsh to me, in the wrong places.
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Definitely no on the MXL - had all those in my home studio, too brittle and hyped up on the high end. Sometimes work on certain kind of vocals, I use them on overheads sometimes but need to eq heavily to tame the hi freqs. AT4040 is fantastic, I'd go with that if budget allows.
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Definitely no on the MXL - had all those in my home studio, too brittle and hyped up on the high end. Sometimes work on certain kind of vocals, I use them on overheads sometimes but need to eq heavily to tame the hi freqs. AT4040 is fantastic, I'd go with that if budget allows.

I agree. The thing about that set is they're both small-diaphragm mics really, which is why the 990 can feel a bit thin. As nice as it is to get two mics for such a low price, you're basically buying the same mic twice.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:26 PM   #31
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I agree. The thing about that set is they're both small-diaphragm mics really, which is why the 990 can feel a bit thin. As nice as it is to get two mics for such a low price, you're basically buying the same mic twice.


This is an erronus statement. Small diaphragms are usually even MORE responsive to low freqs that large. Cheap transistors, preamps and sound sources coupled with poor placement account for the thinness. There's no doubt they sound thin but don't blame it on the diaphragm.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:36 PM   #32
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This is an erronus statement. Small diaphragms are usually even MORE responsive to low freqs that large. Cheap transistors, preamps and sound sources coupled with poor placement account for the thinness. There's no doubt they sound thin but don't blame it on the diaphragm.

Fair point!

I always assumed it was similar to speakers (which are basically a mic diaphragm in reverse) - go bigger and you get more bass, but a slower response time. Which is why bass players often go for 4x10" cabs for tight, bright tones and 15" cabs for meaty rock.

I'll be reading up and experimenting a bit more with LDCs vs SDCs. I'm suddenly starting to realise that I've only even used small-diaphragm condensers in the usual settings - overheads, hihat, acoustic guitar, so I don't really know what they can sound like given the chance.
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I for one don't agree with Artemis on the statement that small diapragms are more responsive to bass, maybe if we're talking proximity effect but overall that's not true.

There are some soldering mods to make the MXL a better mic but I didn't bother. I switched to AT2020 and only use the MXLs for overheads.
http://jordancolburn.com/2009/07/16...-modifications/
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:15 AM   #34
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Yeah, I've always heard SDC's have a better high-end freq. response, but LDC's give a warmer sound with a lower extension of the low end.
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Not true either...

It is dependent on design mostly but pencil condensers usually tail off sooner on the bass side. Cheaper mics are not a good way to judge but if you go up in price you'd discover that for the most part things get blurry:

Consider these two Neumann graphs:
KM184
http://recordinghacks.com/images/gr...mall/1/1091.png
U87 (big condenser)
http://keepapers.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/u87.png

Both have almost the same freq response, with the U87 having more low end range and a bigger lift in the air frequencies.
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SDCs are indeed more responsive to high end. Their diaphragms are smaller and easier to move. The comparison to speakers was good. As for my comment about SDCs and low end, SDCs have a slightly larger frequency range though not in the low end. not that it really matters. While LDCs can pickup MORE bass I usually find it to be less detailed and accurate. SDCs have a way of more faithfully reproducing low end. Saying they were more responsive probably wasnt my best choice of words.
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Apparantly my pops has ordered me the 2035 so I guess I'll just have to see what it's like when I get it.

Also gonna pick up a Saffire 6 and a mic stand
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Apparantly my pops has ordered me the 2035 so I guess I'll just have to see what it's like when I get it.

Also gonna pick up a Saffire 6 and a mic stand


All good choices. Love the 2035 and the Saffire Pro 24 is one of my favorite budget interfaces. Different interfaces but similar parts.
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Looks like your gonna have a pretty awesome set up, phew you dodged the bullet by getting the saffire unlike me stuck with a ux2! Congrats and happy xmas.
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