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Analyzing Brahms: Insights to Help Us Improve Our Music
I often see these kinds of issues brought up by aspiring songwriters/composers on this forum: "I've come up with a cool idea, but I can't think of how to go on or what to do next" or "I always have trouble finishing a piece" or "I don't like the results. It seems very lacking and stale". These are very common problems, and it inspired me to write this lengthy analysis of Brahms' String Quartet No. 3. The first movement of this quartet shows an incredible level of maturity in compositional craft, one filled with creative solutions at every turn.
Composition advice is often put in vague terms, focusing only on the overall concerns and leaving a vacuum on the inner workings, which I suspect many people would like to know. Too often when we're struggling to write, we don't stop to ask, "Why this, now?", the answer to which will break the creative blockade. That is why I've attempted to retrace every step of this piece, breaking down every nuance along the way to show exactly what Brahms was thinking and what prompted each minute decision that allowed the music to progress and take shape. In documenting all this at such a micro level, I hope it will reveal to us new ways of approaching those common problems no matter what kind of music you're writing. Of course, this is a very long read (sorry no tl;dr), but there's no need to do it all in one sitting. What's important is taking it all in and really absorbing it, so read at a comfortable pace. The focus will mostly be on 3 aspects:
Let's get started! Download a copy of the PDF and listen along: Introduction to the Sonata Form and its Exposition
Exposition - Theme A
Exposition - Bridge
Exposition - Theme B
Exposition - Coda
Introduction to the Development
Development - First Half
Development - Second Half
Recapitulation and Coda
Afterthoughts and Important General Considerations
Harmonic Analysis coming soon
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Modes and scales are dumb and useless. Stop learning them. No, seriously. Analyzing Brahms: Insights to Help Us Improve Our Music Nelsean attempting to pronounce my name lol I got Last.fm. Don't know why... Last edited by Xiaoxi : 12-11-2012 at 10:22 PM. |
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First. Don't have time to read it though.
EDIT: right now. I will in a few days when exams are done. |
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Reading now. And consider the Douglas Adams quote fixed.
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Composition Challenge: Ternary Form
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i was really looking forward to seeing you try and get 5 posts reserved before we ruined your thread. but i'll need to set some time aside before i jump into it, work today and my last finals tomorrow, ick.
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Hooray! I've been waiting for this.
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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Very interesting Xiaoxi. I'm transcribing and analyzing my favorite albums, so your post will come in handy reference.
Will read when I get the chance.
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Will you be covering any Chopin in this discussion?
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I have to give myself a pat on the back for the solution I came up with. I'm a goddamn genius. Quote:
Sure, here it is: On the Subject of Chopin
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Modes and scales are dumb and useless. Stop learning them. No, seriously. Analyzing Brahms: Insights to Help Us Improve Our Music Nelsean attempting to pronounce my name lol I got Last.fm. Don't know why... Last edited by Xiaoxi : 12-11-2012 at 06:22 PM. |
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I also Lol'ed pretty hard. ![]() |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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you don't like chopin?! chopin is great!
i mean, he's not a master of composition like brahms, but he's great! interesting read. i'll come back to it again when i have more time to really appreciate it in depth.
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No mo cho please!!!!!!!!!!
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The hell is THAT supposed to mean??!!
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How bout you Liszten to some Liszt, instead? Or can you not Handel it? |
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I'm sick of Brahms after listening to his first symphony for analysis countless times.
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Mother****er I Didn't Even See It Was Brahms' 3rd String Quartet When I Came In Here Before
This Is Legitimately My Favorite Piece By Brahms i guess capslock isn't tolerated here anymore.
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Hey, thanks for writing this. I listened to the piece and followed along with the sheet music, and I read your whole analysis while doing my best to go and revisit the sections you talked about. Approaching classical composition methods is kind of daunting so stuff like this really useful and inspiring. The final section really gave me some motivation and things to think about.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Glad it did something for you. Did you find it understandable/easy to understand?
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