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Old 12-12-2012, 12:33 PM   #1
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ESP Eclipse II or a Dual Rectifier?

Ok, since christmas is coming up I'm going to have some money coming my way what with christmas bonus and relatives and all and I was seriously considering one of the two mentioned items for purchase. I've had many a discussion on here about the dual rec and I'm absolutely in love. But the other day I finally played an Eclipse II and fell in love. I come to you guys for advice since I already have a pretty good amp (my marshall) and I've got the little brother to the eclipse. So, what would you guys do? And either way I go I will have to figure out a payment plan because I won't have all the money right now but money is not a factor here. I'll save for 6 more months if I have to.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:38 PM   #2
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Buy the Mesa, sell it to the UK market, make 3500, buy another rectifier AND the ESP with the money.

Profit.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:50 PM   #3
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Buy the Mesa, sell it to the UK market, make 3500, buy another rectifier AND the ESP with the money.

Profit.


This. Or just buy two Rectifiers with the profit and send me one.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:51 PM   #4
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Play both combinations (your LTD with the Mesa <> the ESP with your Marshall) and see what you like best. In your situation, I'd probably go with the Mesa, as it's something that adds something new to your sound. While the ESP is a better guitar than the LTD without a doubt, it's in the same ballpark.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:34 PM   #5
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Or tell me where you live (hopefully USA) and I'll point you to my for sale thread of my ESP EclipseII for $800.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:38 PM   #6
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Have you looked around for either one used yet? Guitars are a bit iffy because one guitar might play differently compared to another of the same model, but buying amps used is pretty much a no brainer as long as it works.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:30 PM   #7
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Or tell me where you live (hopefully USA) and I'll point you to my for sale thread of my ESP EclipseII for $800.


Specifics? And yes I'm in the united states

And I've looked in my area and no one is giving up a dual rec or eclipse II...
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:30 PM   #8
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Buy the Mesa, sell it to the UK market, make 3500, buy another rectifier AND the ESP with the money.

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If only if only haha
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:21 PM   #9
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Specifics? And yes I'm in the united states

And I've looked in my area and no one is giving up a dual rec or eclipse II...


Check my profile. I have pics. There is also a thread in the classifieds forums on this site:

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...d.php?t=1569374

And my mistake, I have it for $850.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:23 PM   #10
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If only if only haha

It's a cleverer idea than you might think.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:36 PM   #11
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Are they much cheaper in the US?!
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:37 PM   #12
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Get the Mesa. I have a DSL100 too and I'd love to have a Dual Rec sitting right next to it. With those two amps at your disposal you could cover a huge variety of musical styles
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Are they much cheaper in the US?!

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Old 12-13-2012, 07:27 AM   #14
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Rule of thumb: the UK gets totally ****ed on the price of any electronics. No matter how expensive things may seem for you in America, they're usually twice that over here. Count yourselves lucky.

The Eclipse II is a nice guitar, but as others have said, it won't really offer anything that your EC-1000 doesn't already. If you're unhappy enough with your tone that you're thinking of getting a different amp, a new guitar isn't going to help.

Go with the amp.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:48 AM   #15
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Rule of thumb: the UK gets totally ****ed on the price of any electronics. No matter how expensive things may seem for you in America, they're usually twice that over here. Count yourselves lucky.

The Eclipse II is a nice guitar, but as others have said, it won't really offer anything that your EC-1000 doesn't already. If you're unhappy enough with your tone that you're thinking of getting a different amp, a new guitar isn't going to help.

Go with the amp.


See, it's not that I'm unhappy with my tone, I just want to upgrade. But I'm definitely leaving towards the amp now.
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Old 12-13-2012, 12:19 PM   #16
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Go with the Mesa. I have a JCM 2000 TSL which I am quite fond of and still get regular use out of, but I bought a Dual Rec a couple years ago and I absolutely love that thing. It gets a significant more amount of use than the Marshall.

For sometime I've always had the mindset that a really good amp is more important than a really good guitar IMO as far as your tone goes. And considering you have an EC-1000 you have a pretty good guitar already...
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Go with the Mesa. I have a JCM 2000 TSL which I am quite fond of and still get regular use out of, but I bought a Dual Rec a couple years ago and I absolutely love that thing. It gets a significant more amount of use than the Marshall.

For sometime I've always had the mindset that a really good amp is more important than a really good guitar IMO as far as your tone goes. And considering you have an EC-1000 you have a pretty good guitar already...


How would you compare their cleans?
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I have an obsession with Boogies, I'd go with the DualRec.
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How would you compare their cleans?


In all honesty I spend most of my time on the high gain channel, but I can get a good clean sound from both for live and jamming purposes.

When it came down to recording in the past I preferred the sound of the Marshall's cleans, probably due in part to the built in reverb, which (applied lightly) added a bit more depth to the sound.

I also have to add however, that I'm not to keen on using clean tones extensively and prefer a little break up and grit when going for a "cleaner" sound. I've had a great deal of fun getting some lightly overdriven tones from the Dual Rec using the clean channel with the 'pushed' function engaged.
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