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Old 12-13-2012, 05:59 PM   #21
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Here's how I calculate emotion. E=emotion, b=bends, t=average length of bends, L=length of musical work

E=b(t)^2/L
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:21 PM   #22
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Your formula is flawed as it does not factor in the condition of the instrument - the more beat up, the more emotion.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:30 PM   #23
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Soul means something different to each person. For example, I don't factor facial expressions in.
That's because anyone can make facial expressions. It doesn't mean you "really feel the music, man." It means you make faces. That's it. If you got feel, you got feel.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:40 PM   #24
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:34 AM   #25
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:51 AM   #26
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:49 AM   #27
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dude what the shit

i'm gone for like 15 hours and this shit comes up
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:24 AM   #28
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simplicity or shred? ..............how about a bit of both!!! yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaah. anyway listen to paul gilbert's fuzz universe or charlie parras procrastination, if you want melodic passages and shredding together.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:02 AM   #29
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The thing is, it's hard to make simple sound good. You can just shred scales and arpeggios up and down but when you play slowly, you must really have good melodies in your solo. That's why people say it's harder to play slowly. Playing fast needs a good technique but playing slowly needs a good sense of melody. Which is better? It's up to you. If you like shredding, OK and if you like playing slow, OK. It's all about the song. If a thrash metal song had a slow blues solo, it wouldn't fit the song at all. In that case a crazy shred solo would fit the song the best. But play a slow ballad and then shred a crazy solo, it would ruin the whole song.

And TS, if you didn't notice there's a lot of trolling in this thread (especially comments about modes).
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:20 AM   #30
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Ever read a good book? That book that gets your imagination flowing and makes you feel what the characters are feeling and wish that the book never ends.
Soul in music is the same, it's just emotion, now different people can express their emotions differently. It's not just that weird almost-having-a-heart-attack-face that many blues players make, some show it, others don't. Some of them shred, others don't.
You can see more soul in their songwriting than in their way of playing it.



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Old 12-15-2012, 10:22 AM   #31
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dude what the shit

i'm gone for like 15 hours and this shit comes up


i think we've had 2 troll threads deleted in a very short time-span

i'd rather deal with guitarmunky than everyone being tongue-in-cheek, and i'd rather we went back to having the traffic of a snail orgy than have half the threads go progressively from shit to even more annoying shit
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:19 PM   #32
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heyyy i like guitarmunky...
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:02 PM   #33
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@Raster's post: Holy mid-song tuning.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:02 PM   #34
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i think we've had 2 troll threads deleted in a very short time-span

i'd rather deal with guitarmunky than everyone being tongue-in-cheek, and i'd rather we went back to having the traffic of a snail orgy than have half the threads go progressively from shit to even more annoying shit


me, too. GM was great, man. sure, we would always butt heads, but it was intellectual. things were discussed, ideas were shared. and although it often got too heated (and occasionally personal), it was never about trolling. looking back on it now, i can really appreciate those arguments.

on topic, if you think shredding and simplicity are mutually exclusive you're fooling yourself.
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:20 AM   #35
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Some of this stuff is really insightful. Im liking alot of the responses, except for the crappy trolls, of course. Keep it coming
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:42 AM   #36
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:58 AM   #37
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Worrying about modes for a solo is a complete waste of time understanding counterpoint other means of multi voiced harmony will get you a hell of a lot further with a lot less effort. Learn the scale and the chords, then you can use notes outside the chord (neighboring and passing) and and with some knowledge of the key add in outside notes as you guessed it neighboring or passing. As for speed vs. Soul it really depends on what ypu want to do with a song.
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:05 AM   #38
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I noted that Yngwie Malmsteen can play fast as hell, but he DOES play fast as hell simply for the sake of playing fast as hell. I never could stand that about him. John Petrucci can play fast as hell also, but doesn't have to do it EVERY time he picks up the guitar.

To me its a matter of style. Making a single measure stretch all the way across the page (or more) doesn't always do a lot for the song.

Some guys get that some don't.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:59 AM   #39
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Shredding or Simplicity?


Most shredding is pretty simple. Just fast.

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Yeah, some people don't like lots of notes. Some do. Don't get worked up about it either way, it's all music and you can't change their mind anyway.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:53 PM   #40
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it's more about feel and tone than "soul." lots of guitarists I know are technically gifted but can't "hear" or play musically. it's really bizarre. just playing the note doesn't make it sound right. the notes are like 30% of the battle. lots of time shredding is making up for a lack of phrasing ability. you should have the technical facility to play fast but only wield it when it fits. you can play guitar (or any instrument) without playing music. unfortunately thats what I see a lot of.
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