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Old 12-14-2012, 05:28 PM   #1
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Question about Peavey's 6505+ 112 / 5150 212

So, I know 6505/6505+/5150 head's are awesome and epic.
There's cheaper version of head - 6505+ 112, I heard it's produced in china, and it have some crap stock speaker, and even if I unplug speaker and i plug nice cabinet only for amp of 6505+ 112, it still sux right ?
But what about 5150 ? Is the combo 212 version crap aswell ?
I'm wonder, because it is cheaper than 5150 head too, but i can't find much info about combo version of 5150 ...
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:41 PM   #2
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The 5150 2x12 it is basicaly a 50 watt head in a 2x12 combo. Made in the USA with high quality components. It is heavey as hell though.

And the 2x12 5150/6505 combos are way better than the 6505+ 1x12
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:42 PM   #3
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So, I know 6505/6505+/5150 head's are awesome and epic.
There's cheaper version of head - 6505+ 112, I heard it's produced in china, and it have some crap stock speaker, and even if I unplug speaker and i plug nice cabinet only for amp of 6505+ 112, it still sux right ?
But what about 5150 ? Is the combo 212 version crap aswell ?
I'm wonder, because it is cheaper than 5150 head too, but i can't find much info about combo version of 5150 ...


the 5150 was US made and far from crap. the 6505+ combo really isn't bad at all. not as good as the US made head but still decent for the money. the 5150 has been out for production for a while now.
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:01 PM   #4
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So basicly, because i havn't possibility to play any of theese combos :
If i like 6505+ - i may not like 6505+ 112, but if i like 5150 I have to like 5150 212 either ? I mean sound 5150 = 5150 212 ?

I can get used 5150 212 for 700$ and it's weird if they sound same like 5150 head, because head's in my country are for ~900$.
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:06 PM   #5
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So basicly, because i havn't possibility to play any of theese combos :
If i like 6505+ - i may not like 6505+ 112, but if i like 5150 I have to like 5150 212 either ? I mean sound 5150 = 5150 212 ?

I can get used 5150 212 for 700$ and it's weird if they sound same like 5150 head, because head's in my country are for ~900$.


ummm... i think i unserstand what you mean.

ok the 212 has the same guts as the head in a closed back 2x12 cab. as mentioned they are rather heavy (about 70 lbs). the sound should be about the same as the head with a seperate 2x12 cab and just a little diff than when plugged into 4x12.

the 6505+ 112 isn't exactly the same as the head so may sound somewhat different. most prefer the head.
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:32 PM   #6
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Yep You understood me
5150 + 2x12 is just the way i like so i m getiing that 5150 212 ; )
Thanks!
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:11 PM   #7
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Yep You understood me
5150 + 2x12 is just the way i like so i m getiing that 5150 212 ; )
Thanks!

They are great amps, I wish I wiuld have gotten the 5150 2x12 about 5 yrs ago ($400) but I git a Line 6 Spider Valve instead for $800

Live and learn I guess
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:29 PM   #8
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I used to own the 5150 212. Way too ****ing heavy. More than 70lbs, for sure.

It's a really good if the budget is really tight and that is exactly the amp that you need, but unless you're going to plop it down somewhere and never move it again, I wouldn't recommend it.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:34 PM   #9
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I used to own the 5150 212. Way too ****ing heavy. More than 70lbs, for sure.

It's a really good if the budget is really tight and that is exactly the amp that you need, but unless you're going to plop it down somewhere and never move it again, I wouldn't recommend it.

Casters are a great invention, but yes you almost need 2 people to move the combo (easily). But if your a real man it should be no problem, I carry a 110lb 4x12 cab by myself several times a week (its called dedication )
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:47 PM   #10
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4x12 cabs are easy as **** to carry. They have side handles. The 5150 212 only has a top handle. All of the weight is distributed to one point.

It's not really about how much something weighs, it's about how that weight is distributed when you're carrying it.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:58 PM   #11
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combos have one little strap.

on the top.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:30 PM   #12
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I have seen a tone of used 5150 combos that have added side straps, a lot of people added them on. Might be able to pick one up.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:40 AM   #13
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The 6505+ heads are pretty heavy as well. I have one and it weighs around 50-60 pounds or so.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:54 AM   #14
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+1 ^

The head is also pretty darn heavy. When I carry it I tend to carry it in both arms like a baby (lol) rather than use the strap and lean to one side awkwardly. It seems to be heavier and bigger than most heads I've used.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:51 AM   #15
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In defense of the 6505+ 112, it's not a pile of crap like some people claim. Yes, it was made in China, but I've had mine for two years now without a single complaint. The stock speaker is NOWHERE NEAR as crappy as people make it out to be. It is voiced in the lower-mid region and therefore can sound kind of muddy to some people. When you crank it, that goes away for the most part. That said, V30s or V30 clones give an improvement to the tone.

When I was trying tube amps before buying I spent a considerable amount of time playing 6505+ heads with 412 cabs and quickly fell in love with them. I didn't have the money for such a setup at the time so I bought the 112 combo version. It is a little different in tone, but not much. I was still very pleased with my decision. I have since played the head + cab on numerous other occasions and as nice as they sound, I'd say 90% of why they sound better is because they're running a much bigger cabinet.

I'm hoping to get a separate 212 cab in the near future to use with my combo and I'll post a review of how it sounds.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:45 AM   #16
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Wait, Wait it's not Peavey 5150 212, exactly it's Peavey 5150 212 EVH - is that make diffrence ?
I read somewhere that Van Halens signatures are made in Vietnam ? Is it true or Bulls** ?
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:03 AM   #17
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The old Peavey 5150/5150 II are EVH sig amps from the 1990's are made in the USA. The new 5150 III are made by fender for EVH (just like fender now makes the Wolfgang guitars). The 5150III mini are made in vietnam, but the 100 watt 5150 III are made in Mexico.

There is no new 5150 III combos (yet)

The Peavey 6505/6505+ amps are the exact same as the 5150/5150 II's but EVH owns the rights to the 5150 name, so Peavey renamed them (just like the JSX has been renamed the XXX II because Joe satriani left Peavey and went to Marshall)
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4x12 cabs are easy as **** to carry. They have side handles. The 5150 212 only has a top handle. All of the weight is distributed to one point.

It's not really about how much something weighs, it's about how that weight is distributed when you're carrying it.


c'mon guys i'm an old man and i can carry my Ultra 212 by the strap with one arm if need be. here's a radical idea though pick it up and hold it from each side on the bottom. very stable weight distributed evenly and you don't have to feel like a wuss that can't carry an amp
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