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Old 12-16-2012, 06:53 PM   #1
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I have a very strange request

I've been doing a lot of songwriting lately and I am trying to put names to the chords I am using. I only know the open chords A-G and some barre chords.

Is there a website where you can enter in the finger positions and it will give you the name of the chord you are using? Or does anyone have any tricks for labeling a completely random chord structure?
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:56 PM   #2
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:57 PM   #3
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Use the Chord Namer.

Regarding tricks naming chords using "random structure." Learn the notes on the neck of your guitar and then learn the major scale. Using the major scale on the 5th or 6th string, it's possible to identify the intervalic values of the notes you're playing and determine the name of the chord. Of course, you'll also need to be familiar with chord formulas. Sounds like you have your work cut out for you. Good luck!

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Old 12-16-2012, 07:16 PM   #4
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Knowing how intervals work and how they relate to chord naming is always a good way to work out a chord's name.
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:18 PM   #5
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The path that you are taking to learn guitar is not a sufficient one.
Learn the notes on the neck, learn how to construct chords (and why they are constructed that way), learn to recognize intervals by ear, learn about major and minor keys, study functional harmony, and learn to read sheet music. Learn all these to the point were you know them as thoroughly as you know the alphabet. It may seem difficult at first, but if you put one leg in front of the other and just stay at it every day, you'll be there in no time.
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:59 PM   #6
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Cool thank you for the links, help, and advice everyone. Nice community going on here.

and I definitely would like to learn musical theory mac, I've been playing for 5 years now and I am very comfortable in the physical aspect of guitar, just having motivational issues to learn the more theoretical side.
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:03 PM   #7
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Yea theory can seem a pretty daunting, but if you take it in small steps you'll be able to swallow it. What do you currently know in the theory department?
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:42 PM   #8
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But try to learn the notes on your 2 thickest strings E and A. make a little exersize as a warm up perhaps by starting to name the notes on frets with the dots and then when your used to it a bit the ones without dots. Do that for a month and youl have them rememberd realy well.

Then after that if you know if a barr chord shape is eather major or minor your away because you can move them around (think E Major with a barred finger or A minor with a barred finger... Those 2 chords dont need and cant be barred at the first fret because they are open and theres no more room anyway).

Then id sugest learning a major scale pattern (just one octave at first) and what triads are so you can easily work out what chords fit in what key. One step at a time tho and each step leads to another.

Remember there is no dead ends with this stuff so take it steady and in small bites or youl choke.

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Old 12-16-2012, 09:05 PM   #9
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Great advice smiley fish, thank you for that. So far I know the names of major chords, and I know the pentatonic scale. While this seems very amateurish I still know a ton of blues/funk/jazz/rock chords and can rip out a freestyled solo because I generally know what notes to hit if I'm trying to stay in a chord. I would call myself quite a decent player with an exceptional knack for songwriting considering my experience. I feel like theory would help me quite a lot
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:31 PM   #10
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Great advice smiley fish, thank you for that. So far I know the names of major chords, and I know the pentatonic scale. While this seems very amateurish I still know a ton of blues/funk/jazz/rock chords and can rip out a freestyled solo because I generally know what notes to hit if I'm trying to stay in a chord. I would call myself quite a decent player with an exceptional knack for songwriting considering my experience. I feel like theory would help me quite a lot


Awsome. Youd probably benafit from a music teacher for this stuff and it doesnt necerserily have to be a guitar teacher.. if sumone knows music theory they should be able to guide you anyway especialy if you can put your own groove onto things you learn. Maby phone some up in your area and see what there offering. Good teachers will teach you what you ask them for if they can.

The internet is great but it can easily be a minefeild. You should benafit from learning even a little theory and itl help with both rythym and lead.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:05 AM   #11
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Thanks for words of encouragement my friend. I might try to find a theory class in my college, or maybe even check craigslist for a private instructor
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:47 AM   #12
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Check out the link in my sig for a good intro to music theory.
Those plug-and-chug websites are more of a hindrance than anything else if you want to understand what you're playing because context is everything and context isn't something you can tell those websites.
We have a Name That Chord thread on this forum by the way. Asking people who know what they are talking about will always be better than a website. And you can be sure the first thing they will ask is "What is the context?" or "What progression is it in?"
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:52 AM   #13
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this website is looking awesome, thank you for that. also, good to know about that name a chord thread. I appreciate the help man
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:35 PM   #14
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Do you know the notes on the fretboard? If so, learning the basics of diatonic scales/harmony will come pretty easy.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:14 PM   #15
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Hi, thought I'd stick a semi related question in this thread

Played around with this Chord Namer on those sites (I generally don't know what I'm playing nor much theory )
It will name most of the strange chords I've encountered

But something like... 456xxx - this is of course something that generally doesn't sound nice and is rarely used, so I guess if it's not a chord by definition; what is it?

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It's a dyad. Specifically, it's a tritone with the root doubled. It's not a chord because it contains only two notes, Ab and D.

EDIT: Whoops, fix'd the mistake.
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It's a dyad. Specifically, it's a tritone with the root doubled. It's not a chord because it contains only two notes, Ab and D.
Fixed. But correct otherwise.

It could be part of a larger chord, such as Abdim(7), Ddim(7), E7, Bb7, Amaj7(#11) or potentially any other chords that contain a tritone.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:22 AM   #18
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Do you know the notes on the fretboard?


+1 Great advice. How did you do it? TS could learn from your experience.
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+1 Great advice. How did you do it? TS could learn from your experience.
Well I started out a sax player so I already was familiar with the musical alphabet and basic scale construction. All it took for me was just putting the pieces together. Learning barre chords helped me a lot. Once you know the root notes in the lower positions, you can just use cheats to figure out the notes on the rest of the neck (e.g. down 5 frets and up a string is the same note, up two strings and two frets is an octave, etc.).
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