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Old 12-23-2012, 01:14 AM   #1
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Classical music suggestions

I'm looking for some new classical music. I currently have all of Beethoven's symphonies and piano sonatas, 1 Richard Strauss Piece, the Planets by Gustav Holst, Vivaldi's 4 seasons, and 1 Maurice Ravel piece.

So what are you guys listening to right now? I'd like to get some suggestions for some early 20th century atonal stuff. That stuff sounds cool but I don't know where to start besides Schoenberg. Romantic era stuff is great as well.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:24 AM   #2
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"That's not music...that's lab work" - Maurice Ravel on Schoenberg.

There's a very noticeable lack of Bach in that list. I personally like his classical guitar arrangements (for an obvious reason). And this is one of my favorite organ pieces by him.

If you want 20th century, I think Prokofiev is great. I like his piano concertos and his piano toccata a lot. Very versatile composer.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:44 AM   #3
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This is just a favorite of mine

Shostakovitch is worth a try


EDIT: Xiaoxi's post reminded me that there is a breakdown of the Shostakovitch quartet:
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:55 AM   #4
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Try not only listening to it, but actively understanding the pieces. I shameless point to the link in my sig.
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:07 AM   #5
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"That's not music...that's lab work" - Maurice Ravel on Schoenberg.


Great quote, never heard it before. And I'm always down for a Prokofiev Ballet

In regard to the post:
Last Classical pieces itunes said I listened to:
Ravel - Jeux d'eau, Daphnis et Chloe, Piano Concerto in G, Piano Trio (personally I think you'd be fine if you were stuck with your one Ravel piece forever, except maybe if it was Bolero)
Bela Bartok - Music for Strings, Percussion and Celeste, Bulgarian Dances, Concerto for Orchestra
Chopin - Nocturnes etc
Sibelius - Finlandia, Symphony No 2 in C
Brahms - Symphony No 4
Hope that helps, I go through phases

Modern stuff, some of which I think is amazing and others meh: Gygory Ligeti (2001 fame) Stravinsky (check out the ballets) Arvo Part, Penderecki, Steve Reich, Alan Berg (Wozzeck!) Einojuhani Rautavaara, Charles Ives, John Cage, Oliver Messiaen, Terry Riley ( In C is a neat experiment)
I'd tell ya which I like and which I don't really care for but thats an adventure for you.
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:34 AM   #6
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Ravel - Daphnis et Chloe
I saw the Houston Symphony perform this a little over a year ago. Best concert of any genre I've ever seen in my life. the ending gave me chills.
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:34 AM   #7
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some great places to start just for listening:

Bach - Harpsichord Concerto No. 1
Mozart - Symphony Nos. 25, 29, 35, 40
Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 1, Symphony no. 9
Brahms - String Quartet No. 3 (one of my personal favorites, Xiaoxi did a great analysis on this recently)

to start with analysis, try some pieces on smaller scales. mozart's fifth symphony is great for that. i think that's a good start for actively listening and understanding what's going on. it's short, but enough happens that you'll be able to get something out of it.
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:46 AM   #8
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No Handel?!
Stravinsky?
Russian composers ftw.
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:24 AM   #9
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i try to get into atonal stuff too, but i think Penderecki's melodic ditty here is fantastic:

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Old 12-23-2012, 06:01 AM   #10
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Just getting into classical music myself. Here's what I've been listening to recently:

Shostakovich - Symphony Nos. 5, 7 and 11; String Quartet Nos. 7, 8 & 15; Waltz No. 2
Beethoven - String Quartet No. 14
Perotin - Viderunt Omnes
Vivaldi - Concerto No. 2
Myaskovsky - Symphony No. 21 and Cello Sonata No. 2
Brahms - Hungarian Dance No. 5
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:17 AM   #11
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Berg - Violin Concerto, 3 pieces for orchestra, Piano sonata Op.1
Webern - 6 pieces for orchestra, Symphonie, 5 songs
Messiaen - Quartet for the end of time, Ascension, preludes
Boulez - Piano sonata 1, Anthemes, Livre pour cords 1a.
Penderecki - Cappricio for Violin and Orchestra
Berio - Sinfonia
Xenakis - Ata
Ferneyhough - Etudes transcendentales
Birtwistle - Eearth Dances, Theseus Game, Nights Black Bird, Clocks
Peter Maxwell Davies- Ave Maris Stella, 8 Songs for a Mad King
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:33 AM   #12
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"He's stupid" - Maurice Ravel on Maurice Ravel

For early 20th C. stuff, look at the entire Second Viennese, not just Schoenberg (Berg and Webern). I'm personally partial to Webern, so look at his Five Movements or String Quartet Op. 5, String Quartet Op. 28, and Symphony Op. 21.

Also look into Stravinsky, Octet for Winds, Septet, or Symphony of Psalms, and Bartok, Music for Strings Percussion and Celeste, Concerto for Orchestra, or any of his String Quartets.
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paganini has some fun caprices

everything else has been mentioned (or i forgot and they will be mentioned)
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:15 PM   #14
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here's some handel, because he was mentioned

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Bach's fugues. Epic.
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i try to get into atonal stuff too, but i think Penderecki's melodic ditty here is fantastic:


Giacinto Scelsi is exceptional, in my book. I love his compositions.

Particularly:
Uaxuctum and his String Quartet (Streichquartett)

I find him very interesting, because as a bass player I have done what he did himself on Piano - play a single note over and over and over again with various vibrato and energy - to really understand the true meaning of that note.
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Old 12-23-2012, 04:26 PM   #17
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Thanks for the suggestions guys, I have my work cut out ahead of me today
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:44 PM   #18
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Berg - Violin Concerto, 3 pieces for orchestra, Piano sonata Op.1
Webern - 6 pieces for orchestra, Symphonie, 5 songs
Messiaen - Quartet for the end of time, Ascension, preludes
Boulez - Piano sonata 1, Anthemes, Livre pour cords 1a.
Penderecki - Cappricio for Violin and Orchestra
Berio - Sinfonia
Xenakis - Ata
Ferneyhough - Etudes transcendentales
Birtwistle - Eearth Dances, Theseus Game, Nights Black Bird, Clocks
Peter Maxwell Davies- Ave Maris Stella, 8 Songs for a Mad King


Excellent suggestions, might I also suggest Berg's Operas, Wozzeck and Lulu.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:56 AM   #19
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Mahler hasn't been mentioned yet and that's always good if you have time on your hands.
Everyone likes Mahler 1

Also, I have much love for Antonin Dvorak


Ome of my friends in music school has a music blog where he lists some really great pieces, here

There is a slight trombone bias to his blog, but thats just the danger of being a brasshole.



If posting that blog link isn't allowed then could somebody just say so and I'll take it down.
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Giacinto Scelsi is exceptional, in my book. I love his compositions.

Particularly:
Uaxuctum and his String Quartet (Streichquartett)

I find him very interesting, because as a bass player I have done what he did himself on Piano - play a single note over and over and over again with various vibrato and energy - to really understand the true meaning of that note.


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