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Old 12-19-2012, 02:20 AM   #141
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I believe that people who don't enjoy Cracked don't read it right. That article was great.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:26 AM   #142
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That's what's funny. The article said they would do that too:

*Focusing on the Tone to Avoid Hearing the Content

Oh my god it must be correct because he listed the reasons people will think its bullshit but called them 'excuses'!

Jesus some people will believe anything if they're presented as 'hard truths' by some circumlocutory jackass with a superiority complex.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:43 AM   #143
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Oh my god it must be correct because he listed the reasons people will think its bullshit but called them 'excuses'!


It shows he's at least considered the criticisms of what he wrote.

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Jesus some people will believe anything if they're presented as 'hard truths' by some circumlocutory jackass with a superiority complex.


And some will reject anything for the same reason.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:29 AM   #144
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Seanbaby is amazing, and his Godek articles are just on another level.

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Strings of pearls have also been presented to "A String of Pearls" by Glenn Miller.

"What Godek is saying is that most women are happy to ignore your lack of wit if you give them expensive things. Godek had to buy his wife a car to get his first blowjob. And the entire time she was doing it, he handed her blow-pops and screamed, "Get it? Get it!?"
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:59 AM   #145
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I'm not going to critique the validity of the article or any of the points made. It actually helped me figure out a couple of ways to go about some things that I was doing completely opposite.

There were a couple of things in there that I actually did need to be reminded of that I had forgotten, too, such as reveling in my own self importance (for who the hell knows why now that I think about it, no-one else notices it but me). And, I know someone else that probably can get some good out of it too. Its not perfect but I gotta say thanks for posting it Fail.

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Old 12-19-2012, 05:38 AM   #146
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holy shit that made me depressed. probably because it's why i'm depressed for the most part. felt like i was getting my mind read or something.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:59 AM   #147
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Pretty much what the article said. The world doesn't give a shit if you're nice or how many times it's ****ed you over, it just cares about what you can offer it.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:50 AM   #148
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I think part of what annoyed me, tbh, about the article, is that it's a bit "no shit, Sherlock". The problem isn't that people don't realise they have to have something to offer, it's that for a lot of us, that "something to offer" is a pretty vague concept. I mean, what were his closing suggestions - learn karate, learn to cook - hardly going to make you champion of the new austerity is it?
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:00 AM   #149
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But that isn't hard to say.

He could have literally said any dumb bullshit idea that popped in his head followed with that and they would still do that. It doesn't mean anything he said has merit.


It isn't hard to sit on your ass and criticize either. That was his point. It shows he knows his audience well, including his critics, something any good writer should know.


Also, he hit on one of my favorite things when he was talking about the people "praying for some group" or "keeping them in your thought" and the Kony 2012 crap. Or any stupid online petition (my addition). People do those things because they chose the one type of "help" that doesn't require them to get off the sofa and actually do anything.

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Old 12-19-2012, 10:54 AM   #150
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I generally like Cracked articles, even though some of them are a bit condescending. This one was bordering on it, but i liked it.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:17 AM   #151
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It isn't hard to sit on your ass and criticize either. That was his point. It shows he knows his audience well, including his critics, something any good writer should know.


Also, he hit on one of my favorite things when he was talking about the people "praying for some group" or "keeping them in your thought" and the Kony 2012 crap. Or any stupid online petition (my addition). People do those things because they chose the one type of "help" that doesn't require them to get off the sofa and actually do anything.


Well, altruistic spirit and empathy are prerequisites for positive action. That 'crap' you're talking about is fertile ground for action. (crap, as a matter of coincidence, happens to be a very good fertiliser)

It does not matter how easy or hard it is to criticise. What does matter is whether or not that criticism has merit.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:30 AM   #152
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I think part of what annoyed me, tbh, about the article, is that it's a bit "no shit, Sherlock". The problem isn't that people don't realise they have to have something to offer, it's that for a lot of us, that "something to offer" is a pretty vague concept.


Well, with so many different needs, there are a lot of different things to offer. It's not a matter of vagueness, it's just too broad a topic for that same article.

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I mean, what were his closing suggestions - learn karate, learn to cook - hardly going to make you champion of the new austerity is it?


Why not?
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:31 AM   #153
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Why not?


Really? If life's problems could be solved by learning karate, we'd be living in a far more pleasant world.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:33 AM   #154
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Really? If life's problems could be solved by learning karate, we'd be living in a far more pleasant world.


Solving everything was not the point.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:48 AM   #155
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Solving everything was not the point.


But what does it solve? Making yourself more marketable to employers? Making yourself more attractive to women? With the economy the way it is becoming, there aren't enough jobs to go around, and not everyone has some "selling point". I mean, he quoted the film throughout, but what are we supposed to 'close'?

The only interest in the article, the "get off your arse and do something" is so general and weak as to be of no value whatsoever. The whole point is that 'something' either doesn't pay the bills, or just isn't there.

I mean, would a good business advice article be "sell something"?
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:52 AM   #156
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But what does it solve? Making yourself more marketable to employers? Making yourself more attractive to women? With the economy the way it is becoming, there aren't enough jobs to go around, and not everyone has some "selling point". I mean, he quoted the film throughout, but what are we supposed to 'close'?

The only interest in the article, the "get off your arse and do something" is so general and weak as to be of no value whatsoever. The whole point is that 'something' either doesn't pay the bills, or just isn't there.

I mean, would a good business advice article be "sell something"?


You sound like one of the whiners he's speaking directly to...

Ok, so there aren't enough jobs to go around. SO WHAT?

I don't need jobs for everyone, I just need one for me, and to get that I just have to be more marketable than the other guy...and you.

FFS!
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:54 AM   #157
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:59 AM   #158
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You sound like one of the whiners he's speaking directly to...

Ok, so there aren't enough jobs to go around. SO WHAT?

I don't need jobs for everyone, I just need one for me, and to get that I just have to be more marketable than the other guy...and you.

FFS!


Jesus, what a ****ing insight. So, to get a job I need to be better than the competition? Well I never.

The article gives nothing of any value.

Anyway, this stupid right-wing narrative of competition and individualism is short-sighted and unhelpful. If everything is up to the individual, you ignore the broader structural, societal factors that create the conditions which lead to mass unemployment and general unfulfilment.

Obviously, at the end of the day, you have to do what you have to do to get ahead, but that's not really any sort of revelation, is it? And yeah, I'm a whiner. In societies of unprecedented abundance and wealth, people are going hungry, and all this tool has to offer is "learn karate. CLOSE!". Cheers.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:03 PM   #159
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Jesus, what a ****ing insight. So, to get a job I need to be better than the competition? Well I never.

The article gives nothing of any value.

Anyway, this stupid right-wing narrative of competition and individualism is short-sighted and unhelpful. If everything is up to the individual, you ignore the broader structural, societal factors that create the conditions which lead to mass unemployment and general unfulfilment.

Obviously, at the end of the day, you have to do what you have to do to get ahead, but that's not really any sort of revelation, is it? And yeah, I'm a whiner. In societies of unprecedented abundance and wealth, people are going hungry, and all this tool has to offer is "learn karate. CLOSE!". Cheers.


I get it, you don't get it.

Get used to masturbating in your mom's basement and wishing things were 'fair'...
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I get it, you don't get it.

Get used to masturbating in your mom's basement and wishing things were 'fair'...


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