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Old 12-18-2012, 10:59 PM   #141
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2010. When staying with relatives, intentionally choose to sleep together in a single bed.

This is less for romance and more for politeness. Godek and his wife seep so much pizza grease while they sleep that it's cheaper for his relatives to replace a smaller mattress. So I guess he's not a total monster


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Old 12-18-2012, 11:17 PM   #142
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:34 PM   #143
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What bothers me is that he professes this as the one and only truth about the world. The article has the tone of a sermon, he is basically preaching. It does not allow other world views. He disintegrates people with their hopes, dreams, desires into the language of a marketplace. In"What You Produce Does Not Have to Make Money, But It Does Have to Benefit People" he uses ''a woman'' as an example. His examples do not reach further than a job(/money) and women, which he seems to equate with happiness. You have to conform to these rules (''How can I become the type of person employers want?", "How can I become the type of person that pretty girls like?") instead of constructing your own idea of success, which might be different for everyone.


Yeah, but he's addressing a certain audience. Young guys have written to him telling him that is their idea of success -- money and women. It's not mine, but I still think the basic principles behind it would be useful to me because living for myself is not making me happy.


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Society might end up slightly happier if it didn't encourage success.


Please explain. Do you mean monetary success or success as in getting what you want?

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He emphasizes that you must change yourself the way society, businesses, 'women' want you to change, which I think is a sure way of losing touch with yourself and making it seem like you're a failure. I think doing things that resound with your own sense of joy is a better way of getting out of a period of feeling down. He addresses this to people who are not satisfied in some way. Let's view this as mild form of depression. I have some experience/knowledge on the matter, this being my fourth year in college studying psychology. When people come to a psychologist, the things the author of the article sums up as important only scratch the surface, successful businessmen might find themselves unsatisfied despite of their success. And here the view of the person himself is important, not in what way he does or does not conform to any standard of success. The author seems not to believe in a change of perspective.

On the other hand, tips he gives in the article might be useful to some people, he emphasizes own responsibility, which I think is a good thing (although there are people whose problems are out of their control).


The thing is, most people get a sense of joy from things that have to do with other people.

As someone who's adopted the "human being, not human doing" mindset, probably as a way of justifying my uselessness to society, it hasn't served me because as a social creature I crave things that I can't get without being of some use to others. I didn't take away from the article that I'm not allowed to enjoy anything for myself ever, just that I need more than that.

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I think people that attack the article are really the people it outlines in one of the first points it makes.


That, or they don't need the advice because they're not stuck in the situation of feeling useless.

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maybe they attack the article because it is pretentious and doesn't give any insight you couldn't get from a quick skim of a good book on social psychology, especially one that focuses on western cultures.


How do you know he's pretentious? Worst insult ever.

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Wait, what?

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Old 12-18-2012, 11:53 PM   #144
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I been living my life like that article says for the past year and a half. I'm not all the way there, but I'm making progress.
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:18 AM   #145
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I never heard of Glengarry Glen Ross, but I liked that clip haha. On #3 I checked out "the last psychiatrists" article, and found it much more interesting and well written. Here's the link to the article "Hipsters On Food Stamps", kind of a quirky title but it's a very insightful look into the reality of college and capitalism, a good read if you've got half an hour or so:

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012...ood_stamps.html
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:20 AM   #146
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I believe that people who don't enjoy Cracked don't read it right. That article was great.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:26 AM   #147
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That's what's funny. The article said they would do that too:

*Focusing on the Tone to Avoid Hearing the Content

Oh my god it must be correct because he listed the reasons people will think its bullshit but called them 'excuses'!

Jesus some people will believe anything if they're presented as 'hard truths' by some circumlocutory jackass with a superiority complex.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:43 AM   #148
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Oh my god it must be correct because he listed the reasons people will think its bullshit but called them 'excuses'!


It shows he's at least considered the criticisms of what he wrote.

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Jesus some people will believe anything if they're presented as 'hard truths' by some circumlocutory jackass with a superiority complex.


And some will reject anything for the same reason.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:29 AM   #149
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Seanbaby is amazing, and his Godek articles are just on another level.

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Strings of pearls have also been presented to "A String of Pearls" by Glenn Miller.

"What Godek is saying is that most women are happy to ignore your lack of wit if you give them expensive things. Godek had to buy his wife a car to get his first blowjob. And the entire time she was doing it, he handed her blow-pops and screamed, "Get it? Get it!?"
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:59 AM   #150
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I'm not going to critique the validity of the article or any of the points made. It actually helped me figure out a couple of ways to go about some things that I was doing completely opposite.

There were a couple of things in there that I actually did need to be reminded of that I had forgotten, too, such as reveling in my own self importance (for who the hell knows why now that I think about it, no-one else notices it but me). And, I know someone else that probably can get some good out of it too. Its not perfect but I gotta say thanks for posting it Fail.

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Old 12-19-2012, 05:38 AM   #151
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holy shit that made me depressed. probably because it's why i'm depressed for the most part. felt like i was getting my mind read or something.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:59 AM   #152
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Pretty much what the article said. The world doesn't give a shit if you're nice or how many times it's ****ed you over, it just cares about what you can offer it.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:50 AM   #153
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I think part of what annoyed me, tbh, about the article, is that it's a bit "no shit, Sherlock". The problem isn't that people don't realise they have to have something to offer, it's that for a lot of us, that "something to offer" is a pretty vague concept. I mean, what were his closing suggestions - learn karate, learn to cook - hardly going to make you champion of the new austerity is it?
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:00 AM   #154
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But that isn't hard to say.

He could have literally said any dumb bullshit idea that popped in his head followed with that and they would still do that. It doesn't mean anything he said has merit.


It isn't hard to sit on your ass and criticize either. That was his point. It shows he knows his audience well, including his critics, something any good writer should know.


Also, he hit on one of my favorite things when he was talking about the people "praying for some group" or "keeping them in your thought" and the Kony 2012 crap. Or any stupid online petition (my addition). People do those things because they chose the one type of "help" that doesn't require them to get off the sofa and actually do anything.

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Old 12-19-2012, 10:54 AM   #155
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I generally like Cracked articles, even though some of them are a bit condescending. This one was bordering on it, but i liked it.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:17 AM   #156
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It isn't hard to sit on your ass and criticize either. That was his point. It shows he knows his audience well, including his critics, something any good writer should know.


Also, he hit on one of my favorite things when he was talking about the people "praying for some group" or "keeping them in your thought" and the Kony 2012 crap. Or any stupid online petition (my addition). People do those things because they chose the one type of "help" that doesn't require them to get off the sofa and actually do anything.


Well, altruistic spirit and empathy are prerequisites for positive action. That 'crap' you're talking about is fertile ground for action. (crap, as a matter of coincidence, happens to be a very good fertiliser)

It does not matter how easy or hard it is to criticise. What does matter is whether or not that criticism has merit.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:30 AM   #157
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I think part of what annoyed me, tbh, about the article, is that it's a bit "no shit, Sherlock". The problem isn't that people don't realise they have to have something to offer, it's that for a lot of us, that "something to offer" is a pretty vague concept.


Well, with so many different needs, there are a lot of different things to offer. It's not a matter of vagueness, it's just too broad a topic for that same article.

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Why not?
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Why not?


Really? If life's problems could be solved by learning karate, we'd be living in a far more pleasant world.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:33 AM   #159
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Really? If life's problems could be solved by learning karate, we'd be living in a far more pleasant world.


Solving everything was not the point.
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Solving everything was not the point.


But what does it solve? Making yourself more marketable to employers? Making yourself more attractive to women? With the economy the way it is becoming, there aren't enough jobs to go around, and not everyone has some "selling point". I mean, he quoted the film throughout, but what are we supposed to 'close'?

The only interest in the article, the "get off your arse and do something" is so general and weak as to be of no value whatsoever. The whole point is that 'something' either doesn't pay the bills, or just isn't there.

I mean, would a good business advice article be "sell something"?
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