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Old 12-20-2012, 06:42 PM   #1
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British Scientists create fuel from air and water

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/en...ut-of-thin-air#

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Old 12-20-2012, 06:43 PM   #2
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:44 PM   #3
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Is there any way to make this efficient?
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'British scientists' is an oxymoron.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:46 PM   #6
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Lol

Also Jay, your avatar made me legitimately "lol"

Now I'll read the article.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:52 PM   #8
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holy shit. i hope they really get somewhere with this.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:52 PM   #9
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I can see that this is a huge achievement, but being the eternal critic I must say that it seems like a bit of a roundabout way of saving energy.

You need a shitton of energy to produce petrol from air. Why not just use that energy directly to power our cars? The distribution network is already in place, and battery systems will become affordable once there's enough demand to have an economy of scale.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:54 PM   #12
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Is there any way to make this efficient?

I doubt it.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:55 PM   #14
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:55 PM   #15
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We'll find out in 2015 when they complete the second part of the test at the new plant.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:58 PM   #16
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I can see that this is a huge achievement, but being the eternal critic I must say that it seems like a bit of a roundabout way of saving energy.

You need a shitton of energy to produce petrol from air. Why not just use that energy directly to power our cars? The distribution network is already in place, and battery systems will become affordable once there's enough demand to have an economy of scale.
As they said in the video, it's currently only being proposed as use as a designer fuel for high performance vehicles, namely, race cars. Their plans are to have a plant within a few years that would be able to produce enough gasoline for the energy produced to outweigh the energy required, so it'd be much more efficient than it is now.

Given that it would create a stable energy supply while also being carbon neutral, it's worth a shot. Better than nothing, at any rate.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:58 PM   #17
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copy pasted it didn't check if it lined up properly so
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:59 PM   #18
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just looks like a bunch of pretentious, self-serving, inefficient twats to me
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:01 PM   #20
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As they said in the video, it's currently only being proposed as use as a designer fuel for high performance vehicles, namely, race cars. Their plans are to have a plant within a few years that would be able to produce enough gasoline for the energy produced to outweigh the energy required, so it'd be much more efficient than it is now.

Given that it would create a stable energy supply while also being carbon neutral, it's worth a shot. Better than nothing, at any rate.

Wait, what? That would mean it's creating energy from nothing.
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