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Old 12-20-2012, 09:12 PM   #41
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Yea, it is.

I almost made a thread about it a few months ago.

Well lookie there.

Jay ya should have used the Almost Searchbar, bud
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:12 PM   #42
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Well lookie there.

Jay ya should have used the Almost Searchbar, bud

ik, right
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:26 PM   #43
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You're either a shoddy troll or one of the most willfully ignorant people on the internet.

I don't know what shoddy means cuz I don't speak shitty british english.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:55 PM   #44
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Former, then.

so gay and judgemental, much like King George III
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:08 AM   #45
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just looks like a bunch of pretentious, self-serving, inefficient twats to me

troll harder, its really cool

or go give money to that cnut Edison...
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:17 AM   #46
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or go give money to that cnut Edison...

ever heard of Bill Nye? better than any British scientist

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Old 12-21-2012, 12:24 AM   #47
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ever heard of Bill Nye? better than any British scientist

you need to get out more.

but so do I if I really feel the need to entertain you like this... but for the record if you really want to talk about American TV hosts, Julius Sumner Miller >>>>> Bill Nye
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:33 AM   #48
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ever heard of Bill Nye? better than any British scientist



My whole childhood is in that man.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:35 AM   #49
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ever heard of Bill Nye? better than any British scientist


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Old 12-21-2012, 12:55 AM   #50
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That was from the gravity episode right?

Watch them name it something totally ******ed like fuddly wumpersteen.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:01 AM   #51
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Old news, the idea has been around for ages. One of my university lecturers' main areas of research has been this for the last 10 years.

Also I find it entertaining that suddenly everyone is an expert on thermodynamics and chemical kinetics by reading this article.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:24 AM   #52
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Not if they could just make beer with water and air...
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:29 AM   #53
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Not if they could just make beer with water and air...


You can. Just not easily
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:30 AM   #54
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I don't remember what episode that was, but it inspired me to go watch his videos on youtube.

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Old 12-21-2012, 02:57 AM   #55
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there's just one small complication: So far scientists haven't been able to prove that the process generates more energy than it requires.



Good luck proving all of thermodynamics wrong.
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:59 AM   #56
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Is there any way to make this efficient?


Yeah.
The technique requires electricity for its chemical conversions, but if you can provide that with solar power, wind power or hydro power, (which are all free once the fittings are in place) then theoreticaly the process becomes very efficient.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:58 AM   #57
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Yeah.
The technique requires electricity for its chemical conversions, but if you can provide that with solar power, wind power or hydro power, (which are all free once the fittings are in place) then theoreticaly the process becomes very efficient.


Yeah this is the point of it, finally someone gets it!!

We'll need a process like this when the oil runs out if we don't have widely used efficient electric car technology so we can like drive places.
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:45 AM   #58
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Yeah this is the point of it, finally someone gets it!!

We'll need a process like this when the oil runs out if we don't have widely used efficient electric car technology so we can like drive places.


And the good thing about it is that any carbon emmissions from use of the fuel will have originated from the air it was made from and simply released back into the same air again, so it's actualy carbon emission nutral. (doesn't place back into the atmosphere any more carbon than it removed to make the fuel)

So what's taken so long?

Well, the efficiency of turning solar, wind and hydro energy into electricity wasn't as good 30 years ago as it is now, so now it's a much more feasable option than it was back then.

This is something that often happens in science and industry, people come up with what looks like workable theories for better ways of doing things but we often have to wait for technology to improve in certain fields before we can begin to implement them.

Take the space elevator or 'skylift' for example. Currently it costs us a massive amount in fuel to get just a relatively small amount of anything (including people) off the ground and high enough to escape earths gravity and go into space. The more weight you have to lift, the more fuel you need to lift it, so you need to take more fuel with you. And the more fuel you need to take with you, the more it weighs, so you need more fuel to lift the fuel you have to take with you, it's a bit of a vicious circle really. But theoreticaly you could have a cabal tethered at one end to the earth and at the other end to a satelite in space which could then be used to permit vehicle transport along the cable from our planetary surface directly into space or orbit. The main problem so far though is that it would require a cable made of a material far stronger than any material that we have thus far been able to produce, but as technology in this particular field continues to improve it seems likely that this will one day be possible and space exploration will suddenly become much cheaper.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:16 AM   #59
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ever heard of Bill Nye? better than any British scientist


mhm, I bet none of the British scientists on that list even have a theme song. Or if they do it's some terrible Muse song or something.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:24 AM   #60
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Yeah.
The technique requires electricity for its chemical conversions, but if you can provide that with solar power, wind power or hydro power, (which are all free once the fittings are in place) then theoreticaly the process becomes very efficient.


Legit, we need gas and oil like combustibles, not solar panels full of local energy.
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