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Old 12-20-2012, 10:18 PM   #1
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Should i replace my bullet strat?

I'm trying to decide if i should or not. TBH, i have no complaints about this guitar. I love the tone, the feel and the look. I also have a hard time distinguishing the sound of the bullet strat from a standard strat. Perhaps a small difference but nothing that makes me go "wow, this standard is so much better". I also like the sound of single coils better than humbuckers and any other guitars that appeal to me aesthetically are humbucking.

Maybe i'm missing something?
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:30 PM   #2
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:49 PM   #3
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What amp are you using?
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:02 AM   #4
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What amp are you using?


line 6 spider IV.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:30 AM   #5
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line 6 spider IV.


that would be part of why you don't hear a huge difference. modelling amps tend to cover the natural sound of guitars, making similar guitars sound more similar than they otherwise would. the spiders are amoung the worst offenders in that regard.

anyways, if you don't see a limitation with your gear, you probably don't need new stuff. however, you will eventually start finding the limitations of your guitar (they are seriously limited guitars). at that point, you can get a new guitar.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:36 AM   #6
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First step:

- Get that Bullet a pro setup and some locking tuners.

Second step:

- Get a good amp.

Third step:

- Get better pickups, potentiometers, capacitors, 5-way switch and output jack

Fourth step:

- Start buying more guitars, like ones with 24 frets, ones with Floyd Rose tremolos, ones with humbuckers, ones made from different woods, etc.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:54 AM   #7
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:21 AM   #8
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First step:

- Get that Bullet a pro setup and some locking tuners.

Second step:

- Get a good amp.

Third step:

- Get better pickups, potentiometers, capacitors, 5-way switch and output jack

Fourth step:

- Start buying more guitars, like ones with 24 frets, ones with Floyd Rose tremolos, ones with humbuckers, ones made from different woods, etc.



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Old 12-21-2012, 02:12 AM   #9
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I would replace the amp before the guitar. Spiders are notorious for being crap.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:30 AM   #10
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I would replace the amp before the guitar. Spiders are notorious for being crap.

really? because i replaced my crate flexwave with the spider. i like the extreme distortion i can get from it. for more laid back stuff, the flex wave works well, for things like black metal, i had a hard time finding something that would give me the kind of sound i was looking for, which i found in the spider. i'll admit, if it's a warm, bluesy, tube like sound you're looking for, line 6 isn't gonna get that. but it does what i want it to do, and that's giving me some nasty sounding distortion.

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Old 12-21-2012, 03:15 AM   #11
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I would never buy an amp for the distortion. The amp has to be great on the clean channel, I can use my stompboxes for distortion.
I recently bought a new amp (for my Bullet Strat), just for the clean tone, and it works great. Also I've put some Seymour Duncan for Strat's in there (JB Jr., Lil '59 will be there next week, SSL3)
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:44 AM   #12
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First step:

- Get that Bullet a pro setup and some locking tuners.

Second step:

- Get a good amp.

Third step:

- Get better pickups, potentiometers, capacitors, 5-way switch and output jack

Fourth step:

- Start buying more guitars, like ones with 24 frets, ones with Floyd Rose tremolos, ones with humbuckers, ones made from different woods, etc.


i agree with this. i did the same thing too, and i actually find myself playing my tricked out squier more than my other higher end guitars. i guess you tend to love your first guitar the most lol
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:58 AM   #13
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i agree with this. i did the same thing too, and i actually find myself playing my tricked out squier more than my other higher end guitars. i guess you tend to love your first guitar the most lol




I my case, my 1st guitar was an MIA Strat, my second was a Squier Affinity, and I have several MIJ guitars...yet my modded Squier is still my favorite and my main stage/recording guitar.

Can't say the same thing for amps, though. I hate my Marshall MG. I'd rather play thru MFX pedals going into PA speakers. My tube Marshall halfstack is OK, but it's not worth the pain most of the time. MFX thru PA gets the job done. The halfstack sounds 5% better, but does look infinitely cooler
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:04 AM   #14
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really? because i replaced my crate flexwave with the spider. i like the extreme distortion i can get from it. for more laid back stuff, the flex wave works well, for things like black metal, i had a hard time finding something that would give me the kind of sound i was looking for, which i found in the spider. i'll admit, if it's a warm, bluesy, tube like sound you're looking for, line 6 isn't gonna get that. but it does what i want it to do, and that's giving me some nasty sounding distortion.

Spiders are known for being low quality, also the amp is known for masking a guitars natural tone.
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:57 AM   #15
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I my case, my 1st guitar was an MIA Strat, my second was a Squier Affinity, and I have several MIJ guitars...yet my modded Squier is still my favorite and my main stage/recording guitar.

Can't say the same thing for amps, though. I hate my Marshall MG. I'd rather play thru MFX pedals going into PA speakers. My tube Marshall halfstack is OK, but it's not worth the pain most of the time. MFX thru PA gets the job done. The halfstack sounds 5% better, but does look infinitely cooler


yeah i guess we lucked out on our squiers. what i enjoy about these things is despite them being cheap, some models tend to have great necks which makes them a great platform for modding. point is, if you enjoy the feel of your guitar even if its a lower end model, dont hesitate to upgrade it, as long as the cost is within reason.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:02 PM   #16
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The amp has to be great on the clean channel, I can use my stompboxes for distortion.


Tell that to a 6505 and it'll kick you in the tits for being so stupid...
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:39 PM   #17
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About the spider....point is, i am fully aware of it's limitations, and i think it sounds perfectly fine on the clean channel, and it sounds awesome on the high gain channels, it's anywhere in between it's lacking. it's a budget practice amp that does what i want it to do without having to spend money that i currently don't have (being a college student with limited funds). I certainly don't plan on using it indefinitely, but for now, there's nothing it can't do that i want it to do. Also, i did have my guitar setup professionally back when i got it. I have since changed the strings to a heavier gauge so i don't know if it now needs re-adjusting. (10's-11's)
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:57 PM   #18
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Spiders are known for being low quality, also the amp is known for masking a guitars natural tone.


Yeah I have one and it makes all my guitars sound the same...single coil doesn't sound much different from humbuckers on it.

New amp is on my shopping list for the new year.

For the record, my 2-year-old likes the Spider...
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:35 PM   #19
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About the spider....point is, i am fully aware of it's limitations, and i think it sounds perfectly fine on the clean channel, and it sounds awesome on the high gain channels, it's anywhere in between it's lacking. it's a budget practice amp that does what i want it to do without having to spend money that i currently don't have (being a college student with limited funds). I certainly don't plan on using it indefinitely, but for now, there's nothing it can't do that i want it to do. Also, i did have my guitar setup professionally back when i got it. I have since changed the strings to a heavier gauge so i don't know if it now needs re-adjusting. (10's-11's)

The amp should be good all round. My Vypyr gets good everything. Cleans, low gain, mid gain, high gain and sounds more natural (To my ears) If that makes any sense.

Okay nough bout the amp. Yes you will need to tweak your guitar's set up since you have the heavier gauge. Shouldn't be too much of a hassle though.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:23 PM   #20
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Some people may love the Line 6, which is fair enough, it's a subjective issue. There is no right and wrong. But you'll struggle to emulate any real tone of your idols due to the quality of the amp. So eventually, when you start studying musicians and you want to emulate tone as you record your own version of a song, or when you start to admire them and try and write like them, you'll realise that the Spider just won't cut it.

However, you might not want to emulate anyone and might not admire anyone and are just your own musician. But that's a rarity

But if you can't tell the difference between a Squier Bullet and MIA I have to ask.

Are you playing these two guitars through your Spider?

Have you ever played through a good tube amp?

How long have you been playing?

I'm just wondering if it's an experience thing and I don't mean that to come across as offensive or patronising.
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