MeTAL SOLDIER

Sup people! coming to you with a new thread!

so yeah im going for my first Head Amp, and i have 2,300 american greenies for the
"operation". I Mostly play thrash, with a little bit of punk and hard rock thrown in the mix and i manly use active pups so yeah

This two amps caught my attention,

So? opinions? comments? advice?

One more thing what would be a good cab for these amps and for metal?


My amp is a line 6 Spider IV 75 watt, so im starting in all of this valve amps world so i dont know much of the subject help

Robbgnarly

It is not a valid question, the Mesa slays the Blackstar
/thread

__________________
2002 PRS CE22
197? Sanox Sound Creator LP clone (GFS Fat Pat)
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate

SGstriker

Mesa all the way.

__________________
You just read my above post in Patrick Star's voice, didn't you?

Perverockstar69

Mesa!

__________________

Mesa Royal Atlantic
Fender PA100
Laney LC15R
Orange PPC212OB
Gibson SG Standard
LTD Viper-500
Jackson DKMGT
Catalinbread Ottava Magus
Jim Dunlop CFH
MXR Carbon Copy
Visual Sound Liquid Chorus
Ibanez TS9DX (mods)
Boss BF-2

Thermon

Mesa without a doubt.

bluestratplayer

Be specific and get the roadking.

__________________

ragingkitty

Mesa over Blackstar any day.

__________________

( )( )
( . .) This is Bunny. Copy and paste Bunny into your
C('')('') signature to help him gain world domination.

Offworld92

I wouldn't be so quick to judge. The S1 is pretty damn nice. I've seen My Ruin a couple times and their guitarist uses one - it cuts through crazy well.

They're really different beasts though.

If you can give us some more info and answer these questions here, we can give you some more suggestions, and have more insight into your needs in general.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...d.php?t=1387138

__________________
In your mind, you can fly.

HUMAN BLUEPRINT INSTANCE

HUMANIZER

Main Rig
Ibanez S420
LTD EC-1000
Peavey 6505 | MS412 (WGS)
Boss TU-3 | CS-3 | GT-10 | NS-2
MXR M77
Morley Little Alligator
Danelectro Fish & Chips

cdr_salamander

You will get tons of Mesa love on this forum, and lots of Blackstar hate stemming from their cheaper HT amps. The S1 is a nice amp though, but I would still choose the Mesa over one any day.



This.

JesusCrisp

You're comparing a hot-rodded, multichannel Marshall kind of amp to a Dual Rectifier.
They completely different tones TBH.

@ all the other users posting so far: The Dual Rectifier is a great amp for sure, but it really wouldn't be my choice for thrash. At least not the kind of thrash I think of (Slayer, Megadeth, Metallica, Anthrax, Exodus, etc.).
For that, the Series One would overall work better.
Also, if he was comparing the Recto to a JCM800 or some other hotrodded Marshall-type amp (Splawn or whatever), you would probably see the 'apples to oranges' thing going on here.
Unbelievable how much hate Blackstar is getting around here.

__________________
Fender American Special HSS Stratocaster
Ibanez 1987 Roadstar II Deluxe
Yamaha THR10X
Egnater Rebel 30 112
Ibanez WD-7 Weeping Demon Wah
TC Electronic Polytune
Boss SD-1
Seymour Duncan Tweakfuzz

Offworld92

^ Agreed 100%. Though I will say that I do personally hate Blackstar because of their false advertising bullshit, I still do want to point out that they are different beasts, and further yet there are most likely other options to consider given OP's budget.

I would choose the Blackstar over the Mesa tonally, but I'm sure with some more info we could find an amp with better tone, and better morals.

__________________
In your mind, you can fly.

HUMAN BLUEPRINT INSTANCE

HUMANIZER

Main Rig
Ibanez S420
LTD EC-1000
Peavey 6505 | MS412 (WGS)
Boss TU-3 | CS-3 | GT-10 | NS-2
MXR M77
Morley Little Alligator
Danelectro Fish & Chips

ihartfood

you should look into:
Kerry King sig JCM800
Mesa Road King
JCM800 from the 80s and boost it
Mesa Royal Atlantic
5150 III

__________________
My Rig
Like Telecasters?

ragingkitty

Sure you're thinking of Slayer, Megadeth, Metallica, Anthrax, Exodus when you read thrash, but did you verify that these were the bands he was seeking to emulate?

Did you verify that he wants to replicate their tone? He also mentioned hard rock and Punk, for which the Recto has its applications as well.

True that there is a lot of Blackstar hate on this forum, and yes there is too much Mesa-love. However, if Blackstar had some integrity to at least advertise honestly, do you really think there'd be that much hate going around? I'd venture to say that even between a Splawn, Marshall and Blackstar, very few would pick Blackstar over the others.

__________________

( )( )
( . .) This is Bunny. Copy and paste Bunny into your
C('')('') signature to help him gain world domination.

Viban

Not my first thoughts when I hear thrash, I'd say most of these bands are just regular 'ol metal, megadeth maybe speed metal. However that's pretty well off topic.

__________________

gerraguitar

didn't metallica use mesa at one point?

__________________
Fender Strat Deluxe
Fender MexiStrat
Epiphone Sheritan
Ibanez Artcore
Fender Twin Reverb silverface
Roland JC120
Pedals

MeTAL SOLDIER

More info: im looking for an amp that gives me the kill em all tone but also something like megadeth's rust in peace, an amp that can be usable for 80 thrash mostly also i would use the amp for giggin mostly

With more than 2 channels

gerraguitar

need to look into marshall then, jcm800 all day

__________________
Fender Strat Deluxe
Fender MexiStrat
Epiphone Sheritan
Ibanez Artcore
Fender Twin Reverb silverface
Roland JC120
Pedals

Offworld92

If you need more than two channels then Splawn is probably the way to go. Are you in the US?

__________________
In your mind, you can fly.

HUMAN BLUEPRINT INSTANCE

HUMANIZER

Main Rig
Ibanez S420
LTD EC-1000
Peavey 6505 | MS412 (WGS)
Boss TU-3 | CS-3 | GT-10 | NS-2
MXR M77
Morley Little Alligator
Danelectro Fish & Chips

MeTAL SOLDIER

Yes im from Texas