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Join Date: Sep 2009
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Good guitars for metal and drop tuning?
I'm currently looking to buy a new guitar, and have had some trouble finding one thats right for what i need to play. I need a guitar that is able to withstand low tunings (c, b, and a) and need help finding one that can play fluently with good note definition. Any ideas?
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
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Budget? Musical styles? Current gear?
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Join Date: Apr 2011
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Any guitar can tune low, but guitars with longer scale lengths, to my ear, have more clarity. Some disagree with that, but **** them, I hear it :P That said, the Ibanez RGD series is nice. 26.5" scale, plenty of clarity.
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Liverpool, UK
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It doesn't actually work like that, string tension, not a longer scale length, is what give a guitar it's so-called 'clarity'.
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Join Date: Apr 2011
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Hehehe. See?
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Liverpool, UK
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The only thing i'm seeing is your ignorance.
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NY
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Are you looking into getting a 7 string guitar, you can get that added range you want. Or you can check out a guitar like the PRS SE Mike Mushok Baritone which is a 6 string that's specifically built for lower guitar tunings.
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Last time I checked, one of the results of a longer scale length was greater string tension......
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Ibanez RGD, some Agiles- Personal preference
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That's what I was thinking. By the way TS, putting thicker strings on your guitar helps with drop tunings too. As for guitars, we need a budget and preferences. See the sticky.
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Get what you want- my Dean Cadillac has been tuned to CGDAEG for almost a decade, and its 24 3/4" scale. The C is a 052. No issues. I have a longer scale hollowbody in the same tuning.
That said, I'm having a custom guitar made for the same tuning, and it will be of a slightly longer scale length (25" or 25 1/2", I forget at the moment). But the reason for the longer scale length is economy- that luthier traditionally works in that scale, and changing that would incur some additional costs. (Its being made because it will be a HSS guitar, as opposed to my Cadillac, which is HHH.)
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bath, Somerset
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The point being made is that it is the tension—however you get to that result— that matters, not the scale length. OP, literally anything will do what you want. There isn't a single guitar in the world that can't be drop-tuned and 'good for metal' simply means 'not a hollowbody with single coils'. You need to be more specific; tone, bridge style, pickup and control style, etc.
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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Why don't you check out 7/8strings from schecter and ibanez
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Agreed, but that wasn't a parameter in question.
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Join Date: Jun 2010
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Longer scales will make that you need lighter strings to achieve the tension you want
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Finding the Pattern
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Huh?
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Liverpool, UK
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The only thing the context of what Jeleopard suggested that would give a guitar more 'clarity' is it's scale length, when it is actually string tension, not the scale length that gives you more clarity. If you actually read the rest of offworld's post, he points out that its the tension that matters, not the length of the scale.
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Yes dear, I'm aware of that, although I'd say 'string tension' is even a somewhat simplistic answer, since 'clarity' is also found (perhaps primarily found? I'm sure opinions vary...) in technique. Don't take my word for it, ask Billy Gibbons.... As for the "If you actually read the rest" nonsense, go be a pedantic twat elsewhere. ![]()
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#Dantheman
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Liverpool, UK
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If you're playing 9's in drop A, you're not going to have very much clarity in your sound, mang. Its not like the guitar setup itself doesn't play a part in it. Quote:
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Finding the Pattern
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Which has better clarity, 12-60's in Drop B or 8-42's in E standard?
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