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Old 12-27-2012, 06:25 PM   #21
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Which has better clarity, 12-60's in Drop B or 8-42's in E standard?

Here's an idea: Why do you find out for yourself?
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:27 PM   #22
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Here's an idea: Why do you find out for yourself?


C'mon now, don't dodge the question, I'm simply looking for information like everyone else here.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:32 PM   #23
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C'mon now, don't dodge the question, I'm simply looking for information like everyone else here.

How do you expect me to answer such a silly question? There are far too many variables .

You don't really care what the answer is anyway.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:34 PM   #24
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How do you expect me to answer such a silly question? There are far too many variables .
You don't really care what the answer is anyway.


Indeed.......thanks.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:40 PM   #25
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Well, I mean, I've put my Jackson in low tunings, and have put my Ibanez RGD in the same tunings with the same strings in, and it's sounded better, so... Scale length has something to do with clarity :P

Also, I'm not the only one who hears it SOOOO....

http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/...l=1#post1644425

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Old 12-28-2012, 11:44 PM   #26
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:54 PM   #27
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Well, I mean, I've put my Jackson in low tunings, and have put my Ibanez RGD in the same tunings with the same strings in, and it's sounded better, so... Scale length has something to do with clarity :P

Also, I'm not the only one who hears it SOOOO....

http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/...l=1#post1644425

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I hope you didn't forget to realize that your pickups and the materials used to make both guitars are in fact completely different? Didn't think that such variables had something to do with it?
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:09 AM   #28
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I hope you didn't forget to realize that your pickups and the materials used to make both guitars are in fact completely different? Didn't think that such variables had something to do with it?


Well, yes, but unplugged? :P And yes, I've played a downtuned basswood Ibanez 25.5" scale to compare it. 26.5" is still much clearer.
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Well, yes, but unplugged? :P And yes, I've played a downtuned basswood Ibanez 25.5" scale to compare it. 26.5" is still much clearer.

If you have the same string tension on both guitars, the only person you're fooling is yourself.

Did you also take into account that the strings on one might be a lot older than on the other guitar? If so, then there's your answer.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:12 PM   #30
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Fresh strings, same thing.

Explain Multi-scale guitars, then. It makes a difference in tone, T00. Many agree with me.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:19 PM   #31
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Fresh strings, same thing.

Explain Multi-scale guitars, then. It makes a difference in tone, T00. Many agree with me.

The reason why it makes a difference in tone is not because of the scale length, but because of the increase of string tension on the lower strings with a multi-scale length neck. You're constantly making the mistake of thinking that a longer scale length gives you more clarity in your tone, but that is because the strings have a higher tension. The reason why it does that is because the scale length increases the tension of the strings, but you can have heavier strings on a shorter scale-length guitar and create essentially the same effect. Having a longer scale length doesn't automatically mean more clarity. If that was the case, we'd all have bass necks on our guitars.
The string tension is what matters, not the scale length.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:38 PM   #32
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The reason why it makes a difference in tone is not because of the scale length, but because of the increase of string tension on the lower strings with a multi-scale length neck. You're constantly making the mistake of thinking that a longer scale length gives you more clarity in your tone, but that is because the strings have a higher tension. The reason why it does that is because the scale length increases the tension of the strings, but you can have heavier strings on a shorter scale-length guitar and create essentially the same effect. Having a longer scale length doesn't automatically mean more clarity. If that was the case, we'd all have bass necks on our guitars.
The string tension is what matters, not the scale length.


Exactly. A 26.5" neck drop tuned with an 8-42 set of strings will sound like mud compared to a 24.75" neck with a set of 13-56 strings for example. The reason for this is that on the 26.5" guitar, though the strings are stretched more, they'll still be like spaghetti. However, a 26.5" guitar with a set of 13-56 strings will have much greater string tension than that on the 24.75" neck, causing it to have more "clarity". So the SAME STRINGS on a guitar with a longer scale length will have more clarity, due to the increased tension.
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From the scale length... which is what I was saying...
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:10 PM   #34
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Its arbitrary to say that a guitar has more clarity because it has a longer scale length when you can compensate for a shorter length with heavier strings. It's down to the way the guitar is set up.
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But what is the scale length and tension of the horse?
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:42 PM   #37
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Scale length does have something to do with it. All other things being equal, a longer scale length will sound a bit snappier (even if the shorter scale lengths have equal tension). Thinner strings sound a bit brighter than thicker ones.
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