MaaZeus

That is a good question. According to Kramer website they have a million dealers through the europe, but NONE of them had a single Kramer guitar in stock. Kinda sad because I fell in love with Nite V body shape the moment I saw it. Nice change of pace from both sharp pointy ones and boringly round Epi/Gibsons.

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LP1951

I did a store selector search for Tennessee and it listed Guitar Center in Nashville, but I visit that store about once a week and I have never seen a new Kramer in stock

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dannyalcatraz

I've seen the same thing happen with other brands as well (Godin, G&L, and Blade, for example)- they'll be listed as a retailer in the manufacturer's site, but the will be nothing in stock. Best advice: ask the store manager.

It might be that they only handle them via special orders or through their website.

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MaaZeus

Yes, but I was talking about online dealers. I browsed through the websites (few UK and few German with english shops) and none of them even mentioned Kramer anywhere.

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LP1951

Good idea! Maybe if I ask the manager to see a Kramer every week, they'll stock one or two.

How does Gibson expect to sell those guitars if you can't find a demo anywhere in the World?

When I bought my FR422s wholesale from musicyo.com, Gibson had a 90 day return policy. I figured that if it was junk, I could return it and all I was out was shipping, so I bought one and I liked it so much I ordered 2 more. One had a great neck but the FR wasn't setup properly, so I took the neck off and put it on the keeper and then returned the other one to the plant in Nashville, so I didn't even have to pay for return shipping.

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Alucard817

I too like the newer Kramers (Striker 211 is sexy as hell) and these guitars can do a hell of a lot more than just hair metal. Newer Kramers are very versatile.

When I walk into the local GC all I see are damn Ibanez guitars. Gibson, Fenders, or hell even Deans are few in number, but theres a shit load of Ibanez guitars.

I really wish they would stock more Kramers and other "lesser known" companies guitars.

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peskypesky

Hmm. I usually see some Godins and Gretsches and Music Mans also.

dannyalcatraz

I understand, but my statement still stands- try finding something like a Richmond (Godin) or Blade guitar, and you'll see the same thing. They have retailers listed on their site, with links, but when you go to the links, there's nary a Richmond or Blade in "site." I even contacted Richmond to verify that the guitar in question was still in production. So far, I've found it only at one store in Wisconsin.

I can't really explain it beyond maybe it could be that these brands are sold on special order only. Or that manufacturers and retailers are not updating their websites as frequently as they might.

FWIW, I've encountered the same thing with pickup companies. They'll list "X Brand" uses our pickups, but when you go looking, you can't see evidence of the claim. Or you can, and its a discontinued model. Or its an option that is buried in a host of other options.

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digman50

That's because Ibanez, Jackson and ESP are all used by the random new metal bands and Asian people.

Who uses Kramer guitars?

The only guitarist I can think of is Satchel from Steel Panther.

Again, why Kramer when you can Charvel?

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peskypesky

or Jackson?

Alucard817

My local GC will stock the MM basses, but I've never seen a MM guitar there.


Personal preference.

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TuningGamer

http://www.thomann.de/gb/kramer_guitars.html

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dannyalcatraz

Just recently discovered Thomann's Guitar Lab- that's a handy tool!

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RockGuitarist09

I think every dealer than can get Gibson's can get Kramers. My local don't list them, but i went and asked and they ordered me a Kramer Pacer Classic. Great guitar, especially for the price.

LP1951

Personally I hate the Jackson necks. Ibanez are better, but my Kramers have the best necks of any of the guitars that I have tried.

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LP1951

GC has had loads of Ibanez guitars for as long as I can remember and they promote the heck out of them. GC must have a super deal with Ibanez or maybe they own Ibanez stock shares.

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MaaZeus

I stand corrected. But I was looking for V's when I searched for Kramers in Thomann, so thats why I didnt see them...

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JCA12S cab
Vox Pathfinder 10

Pedals
Behringer HM300
Digitech Bad Monkey

Alucard817

I'm not a fan of either personally. They feel too thin for my tastes, but my Kramer neck is buttery goodness.

I think GC is catering to all the hype and fanboys.

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Maximus_2005

What makes these Kramer necks so good?

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