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Old 12-29-2012, 03:00 PM   #1
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P90 or Filtertron type

I'm going to be getting a Fender Blacktop Jazzmaster. I already know I'm going to change the bridge pickup. At first I thought I was going to get a humbucker sized P90 but then I came across Filtertron type pups.
I will be playing music from Eric Clapton to the Black Keys to other Indie stuff, any advice?

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Old 12-29-2012, 03:17 PM   #2
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Filtertrons would work IMO.
But again, so would P90s.
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Filtertron, you already have a p90.
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Filtertron, you already have a p90.


Jazzmaster pickup =/= P90
but yea, +1 to filtertron
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Old 12-29-2012, 05:05 PM   #5
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Any suggestion on what kind of filtertron?
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Old 12-29-2012, 05:10 PM   #6
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TV Jones Classics?
Maybe Powertrons if you are looking for something hotter.
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I'd go for a classic plus
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Old 12-30-2012, 11:32 AM   #8
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Filtertrons won't fit in the Blacktop easily. You'll need to get a new pickguard specially cut for it and you may need to fill in and re-drill/route for it. Filtertrons don't share their dimensions with any other kind of pickup.

That said, at-the-creamery.co.uk can mak you a Filtertron-style pickup in a standard humbucker size, which would drop right in.

Personally, I'd go for a Wide Range-style humbucker (again, the Creamery can make those in a regular humbucker size, as will the Seymour Duncan custom shop), a hum-sized P-90 or, for the best of all worlds, grab a SD P-Rails and a push-push or push-pull switch, then you'll have humbucker and P-90 tones (or, using the SD Triple Shot mounting ring, P-90, rail single coil, series humbucker and parallel humbucker) tones in one. Filtertrons are a rather unique tone that certainly will do what you're after, but will be hard to balance with the more powerful Jazzmaster pickup and they don't play too well with JM vibratos, either.
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Umm, TV Jones has a humbucker mounting option...
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^ yeah, and you can GFS filtertrons that are humbucker sized.
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I took a look at the GFS filtertrons, they sound pretty good and they are price friendly.
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The GFS ones (and most other 'Filtertron' type pickups) aren't actually Filtertron pickups, though. They're regular humbuckers with H-gate covers and a second lot of screw poles instead of slug poles. It's the same trick Fender is currently doing with the 'Wide Range' humbuckers, they look like the old ones on the outside but inside they're the same as any other humbucker. The TV Jones ones are typically more expensive than getting a hum-sized Filtertron copy from elsewhere, too (plus there's the issue that TV Jones are not as good at making full-size humbuckers as they are at making their original design...).
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The GFS ones (and most other 'Filtertron' type pickups) aren't actually Filtertron pickups, though. They're regular humbuckers with H-gate covers and a second lot of screw poles instead of slug poles.



Not to hijack the thread, but I've been looking for humbucker sized Filtertrons. Which ones are real?
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Not to hijack the thread, but I've been looking for humbucker sized Filtertrons. Which ones are real?


Why not just get proper TV Jones Filtertrons with their hb-sized mounting rings?
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^ good point, I forgot you can get HB mounting rings that take the TV Jones with legs. But that is an important point, if you go that route then you need to make sure you get ones with legs, as regular TV Jones Filtertrons are direct-mount.

As for which humbucker-size ones are 'real', basically you've got the TV Jones ones (though their construction is slightly different to the normal Filtertrons), the ones the Seymour Duncan Custom Shop makes (somewhat expensive) and the ones made by the Creamery (cheaper than SDCS and TV Jones, at least). There probably are others made by other small companies, but being in the UK, those are the only ones I'm aware of. All of the Filtertron-looking pickups made more comonly—GFS, axesrus, etc—are just a case of swapping one set of slug poles for screw poles then sticking on an H-gate cover. It's similar to how most 'Wide Range' pickups are just a normal humbucker with the screws and poles offset and how lots of humbucker-size P-90s are more like a Strat single coil when you open them up. Then there's the whole mess of Firebird pickups and minibuckers...

Basically, when it comes to speciality pickups like these, if you're not buying something custom-built then assume it's just a normal humbucker/single coil inside.
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Why not just get proper TV Jones Filtertrons with their hb-sized mounting rings?


Mostly price, but I'll probably end up saving up for TV jones'. I'll check out the Creamery pups Mr. Flibble mentioned, but I think they are UK only (I'm in the US).
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I'll probably go for a TV Jones or a GFS(I heard good things about them). Creamery ones sound good too, but shipping will probably be through the roof to get them here in America.
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