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Old 12-29-2012, 12:19 PM   #1
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How High Can It Go?

How far can you up-tune a guitar before the strings break? A whole step? Two whole steps? I figure I won't be doing any string bending if i tune it up...
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:33 PM   #2
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Really depends on the particular guitar and the strings that are on it...

I've gone a step up before (on electric) though, never tried higher.
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:22 PM   #3
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i've seen a snapped off headstock or 2 from people trying that.
if i remember correctly, i've read about a pedal or program that will change the pitch of your guitar without having to potentially damage your axe. if you have an electric acoustic, i would highly recommend using that. i'll search aroound a bit and see if i can find it again, unless someone else here knows what i'm referring to.
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:28 PM   #4
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The Digitech Whammy and other similar pedals will do that. Listen to David Gilmours 'Marooned' to hear it in use. TS, try it and find out for yourself !
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:28 PM   #5
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Whats wrong with using a Capo?
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:34 PM   #6
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Either use a capo or find an octave pedal that plays an octave up.
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Old 12-29-2012, 03:45 PM   #7
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now why would we want to do something that makes complete and utter sense???? capo ! hmmppphhh !
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:56 AM   #8
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When I first started, with a Harmony acoustic I got out of a flea market, I did just that (in ignorance), and split the neck right at the joint. I over-tightened the strings I put on. Thankfully, my grandfather also plays guitar and he taught me how to tune the thing. I still had to get another guitar, but as we all know, you always have to get another guitar. Else you won't have enough guitars to fill your closet!
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Old 12-30-2012, 05:53 AM   #9
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I've used open tunings before that required tuning strings a tone or semiton up, but I wouldn't go further than that. Especially not on a steel string acoustic.

If you're using .012's on a steel string, which is "standard" (in the same way .010's on electric is "standard") then I wouldn't really tune up at all. If you were using a lower gauge you could try it, but don't go more than a tone above.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:41 PM   #10
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Ive tuned B to D. Went a little sharp on D then the string snapped.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:26 AM   #11
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Depends on the guitar and the strings. I can't recall ever going beyond 3 semitones.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:33 AM   #12
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Actually, with no feedback from the TS, I'm wondering why people are still posting to this thread.

Oh well, I'm not going to let that stop me either.

The topic does beg the question, "why the heck would you want to do that anyway"?

There's a circular sort of answer to the question, "which key is higher, G, or C". Well, depending on who is singing, either one.

With that said, the G-3 octave string of a 12 string is intended to be tuned to G-4. (3rd fret, e-1 of a 6 string in E standard tuning). If you're a piano person, that's G above middle C.

I expect a full electric set, based on a .008 e-1 should make 3 semitones, Or what you could loosely "G standard". Am I sure, no.

This GHS set: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...-guitar-strings is gauged from .008 to .038. I personally can't picture wanting to listen to this set on an acoustic, but they likely would make the tuning you're asking about. Come to think of it, the OP never referred to an acoustic guitar anyway.

Lacking any further input from TS, I'm thinking this may have been a rhetorical question anyway. Something along the lines of, "why is there air", or "does the stork really bring babies".

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Old 01-02-2013, 06:59 AM   #13
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The highest tension tuning that I have ever used would be either Open E - (Lowest to highest) ebeg#be and open A - (lowest to highest) eaeac#e
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:11 AM   #14
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Im sorry for not responding earlier, I totally forgot I posted this. I need to check in the setting if there is a way to get email responses after getting a response on here. I have a capo. I was just curious as to how much punishment a guitar could take. Also I have a irrational fear of string snapping.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:32 PM   #15
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Im sorry for not responding earlier, I totally forgot I posted this. I need to check in the setting if there is a way to get email responses after getting a response on here. I have a capo. I was just curious as to how much punishment a guitar could take. Also I have a irrational fear of string snapping.
That's understandable, if it weren't for the emails it generates, I'd have gladly forgotten about it myself.

OTOH, what is a purer and more gratifying pursuit than worthless academia.. Knowledge for its own sake, is its own reward.

In the meantime, why not buy a set of acoustic mediums and one of them thar battery powered peg winders, and let us know what you come up with...
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:58 PM   #16
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I never tune up. When I play in open "E", I tune to open "D" and capo on the 2nd fret. It feels a LOT better also. The amount of pressure I put on the neck for any tuning is less. I tune down and capo.
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:20 PM   #17
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Assuming you have a full size acoustic steel guitar, with regular strings (12-54) probably no more than a fourth with most strings. Some strings strings are stronger. Low E you could reach C# maybe even D. The highest note on a standard 25.5 scale you can tune an open string is G#4, the fourth fret of the hi e,although you may have a shot of reaching A 440, but you will have no chance of reaching G# if the string is old.

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Old 04-29-2013, 04:35 PM   #18
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Assuming you have a full size acoustic steel guitar, with regular strings (12-54) probably no more than a fourth with most strings. Some strings strings are stronger. Low E you could reach C# maybe even D. The highest note on a standard 25.5 scale you can tune an open string is G#4, the fourth fret of the hi e,although you may have a shot of reaching A 440, but you will have no chance of reaching G# if the string is old.
Glad to see someone still putting some careful thought into this thread, especially since today is its 4 month anniversary.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:38 PM   #19
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Happy 4 month "anniversary!"

I personally have guitars tuned to NST, which is CGDAEG. Originally, Robert Fripp intended NST to be perfect fifths, and tried it that way for a while, but found that the high string kept breaking.

I've personally seen gauges as light as 006, and someone told me of octave4plus, a site that sells gauges as light as 004s, any of which could let you get even higher tunings.
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:42 PM   #20
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I've experimented with this before. On my friend's squier mini, the high E got to a B before snapping, so did the B string. The G got to an A, the D got an octave higher, the A, an octave higher, and the low E, a G. On my 25.5 inch scale acoustic, the low E can usually get an octave and a step up, the A can get to a D, D gets to G, G gets to B, B gets to G or G#, and the high E will sometimes get to an A. On my electric, my plain steel .024 string made it an octave and a half step. By the time it was about to break, I could barely move the tune peg anymore. This was about 2 years ago. I used to do this experiment a lot...
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