Arby911

Really?

That's.......pretty stupid.

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zaiura

Then how did you misunderstand the original point?

Why, Arby?

Joshua Garcia

The worst it could count as is a threat. Which, in my opinion, raising a finger on a hand isn't very threatening.

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Butt Rayge

Now you think that the fact I disagree with your support of violence toward hand gestures is simply a misunderstanding? What exactly is it that you think I don't understand?

zaiura

I'm referencing your original response to my spew, mate. And I have to say, I don't exactly support violence, I'm just not shocked when it results from a stupid decision.

Arby911

Why would you cede to anyone the right to beat your ass if you offended them?

Maybe he doesn't like how you look, how you talk, where you're from? Offense/Provocation can be taken about nearly anything if one is so inclined.



Officer: Hey! Did you see what color that car was that just took off out of here?

You: No, I was looking the other way and didn't see it.

Officer: You lying piece of shit, you're probably a friend of the driver's..whack, whack whack.....etc.

You: (Waking in hospital) Hey, why am I in a body cast?

Orderly: You provoked a cop, you're lucky we didn't just leave you on the street you scumbag!

Any other questions?

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TooktheAtrain

I treat them like any other person, car mechanic, nurse, professor or garbageman. I don't see why basic human respect and decency should change for police. They're servants of the public, we aren't subordinate to them.

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Butt Rayge

I didn't take issue with your swear words, just the fact that somehow in the process of writing (and then counting) them you lost track of what you were trying to say. Have you even read over what you wrote?

Nelsean

So if I tell you two to play nice, will you have to flip me off and will I have to ban you two?

Lay off the vulgarity and keep the discussion civil. This isnt a democracy with a constitution and I will warn/ban you Butt Rayge/zaiura.

This is an unofficial warning.

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zaiura

Congratulations, you've got a multi-million dollar law suit there, mate. Sure, your quality if living is terrible now, but at least this wasn't a strawman argument, and just an irrational what if. I'd consider it on a more pertinent light if had to do with my original point, about flipping off a police officer, not possibly looking like a dirtbag or a stranger.

Butt Rayge

But but but he thinks police have the right to beat up anybody who offends them with a harmless hand gesture. He's the bad guy, not me.

whywefight

I don't see how acknowledging anyone as 'Sir' automatically makes you subordinate to them as a person. I've always seen 'Sir' as basically just a noun of respect.

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Nelsean

Just no cursing at each other. Lol @ me doing this and the thread is exactly about this.

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TooktheAtrain

Oh, must be an American-English thing then. The only people you call 'sir' over here are those with knighthoods of some sort.

whywefight

Now we see the violence inherent in the system! Repression! Repression!

It really isn't used in America much at all. When I hear it used in everyday language here, its typically just something courteous to say, like to an elderly man while you open the door for him or something of the like

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zaiura

Close enough, I guess. And sure thing, Nelsean.

Butt Rayge

The irony is not lost on me.

whatadrag

I didn't think it would be necessary to defend myself when asking a simple question, but apparently it is.

1. I flipped off a cop.

2. I did it because he made an illegal right turn across my lane and cut me off.

3. He threatened to take me to jail on these charges.

4. I told him what he did and explained why it caused me to do what I did very calmly.

5. We don't have a crime rate in my town. Another police officer showed up simply because there was nothing else going on.