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Old 01-02-2013, 07:04 PM   #61
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I don't see how acknowledging anyone as 'Sir' automatically makes you subordinate to them as a person. I've always seen 'Sir' as basically just a noun of respect.

"Sir" could be used from everything to the bag boy at the grocery store to the President of the US. It's a basic courtesy thing. If you think that some male is worthy of respect, call them "sir". Obviously, call the women "ma'am".

I personally believe that police officers are always worthy of respect.


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Eh, the 'responsible thing' would've been to report him to the precinct/city hall/etc. depending on the size of your city and wait for them to do absolutely nothing about it. Flipping him off wasn't the brightest thing to do. Odds are he was blowing smoke up your ass about charges though. If you got out of the supposed citation, it's because it probably wasn't worth his time to write it.

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Old 01-02-2013, 07:15 PM   #62
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I personally believe that police officers are always worthy of respect.

lolwut

What about police officers who abuse their power to molest children? What about corrupt officers 'on the take'?
What about that cannibalistic officer a few months ago?

Do they all warrant respect?

mang, I would have agreed with you if you said 'mostly' instead of always.

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Old 01-02-2013, 07:17 PM   #63
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Protected or not, flipping a cop off is the same as saying, "hello officer, please ruin my day". Cops have the power to haul your dumb ass off to jail whether you broke the law or just pissed them off. If you didn't break the law, you'll go free...probably after spending a few hours in the local lock up. Is it really worth it?
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:21 PM   #64
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mang, I would have agreed with you if you said 'mostly' instead of always.

I meant "mostly". I apologize.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:21 PM   #65
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After going through alot of dramas with police years ago I was sitting outside my home having a smoke and a cop car was approaching. Without even thinking my arm extended itself as did my middle finger. The cop seen this and pulled over and asked if I have a problem with my finger (lol). I said "no". He then said "I know where you live" and drove off.

Regardless of intent it's funny that humans can actually get angry about how we move our fingers and look at each other.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:22 PM   #66
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I meant "mostly". I apologize.


ahh okay, I guess I should have assumed so anyway.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:25 PM   #67
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It really isn't used in America much at all. When I hear it used in everyday language here, its typically just something courteous to say, like to an elderly man while you open the door for him or something of the like


It's not an American-English thing. Sir's all the rage up here. Maybe it's just not a South England thing. Everything's Sir here. It's practically become informal now. You go into a shop and it's "now then sir/how you doing sir?"
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:26 PM   #68
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ahh okay, I guess I should have assumed so anyway.

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Old 01-02-2013, 07:30 PM   #69
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One time when I was little, I asked a cop for his autograph

Idk I have some good experiences with cops really being really nice to me, so I never was into the whole "Fuk da Police" thing.

I know there some bullshit cops out there though.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:30 PM   #70
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I've only ever heard people say "sir" irl sarcastically.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:32 PM   #71
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Rarely do I hear anyone say "sir" here, and everyone is still polite and respectful.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:33 PM   #72
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It's not an American-English thing. Sir's all the rage up here. Maybe it's just not a South England thing. Everything's Sir here. It's practically become informal now. You go into a shop and it's "now then sir/how you doing sir?"

Oh, weird. I'm in the south-west (Gloucestershire) and I never hear anyone saying it.
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:26 PM   #73
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Yeah I use "sir" when mate wouldn't be appropriate. So mostly with older people or scary-looking ones.
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:33 PM   #74
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Protected or not, flipping a cop off is the same as saying, "hello officer, please ruin my day". Cops have the power to haul your dumb ass off to jail whether you broke the law or just pissed them off. If you didn't break the law, you'll go free...probably after spending a few hours in the local lock up. Is it really worth it?

exactly no
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:37 PM   #75
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:51 PM   #76
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It's not an American-English thing. Sir's all the rage up here. Maybe it's just not a South England thing. Everything's Sir here. It's practically become informal now. You go into a shop and it's "now then sir/how you doing sir?"


I use 'mate' for someone the same age or younger, always 'sir' for anyone 25- or older. It's just manners.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:22 AM   #77
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We addressed (most) male school teachers as sir.
You often hear people serving you in shops and such calling you/customers 'sir'.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:42 AM   #78
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Congratulations, you've got a multi-million dollar law suit there, mate. Sure, your quality if living is terrible now, but at least this wasn't a strawman argument, and just an irrational what if. I'd consider it on a more pertinent light if had to do with my original point, about flipping off a police officer, not possibly looking like a dirtbag or a stranger.


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[And Rayge, if someone is ignorant enough to provoke a law enforcement officer, they deserve whatever wrath the officer subjects him to.


As there was no limitation or exclusion there, let's not be moving the goalposts now...

According to you, there are NO grounds for a lawsuit.

Consistency matters.
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Americans' obsession with their rights is ridiculous. Just use some common sense, you don't have to do something just because you can.


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hurr durr fuq da police lol


These two things are perfect points and everything else should be ignored.
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The best way to piss off cops is to lay low and not get caught.
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