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Old 01-03-2013, 10:17 PM   #21
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Whoa. Hold the **** up. I don't think either side of the political spectrum was mentioned. Black people are mad because a derogatory term was said over 100 times. It's pretty much the same thing as putting "Shavorules42 is a little bitch" into a movie over 100 times.
Yeah except I'm not a little bitch so I wouldn't cry about it if I saw a good movie and it happened to have a little bit of offensive wording in it.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:17 PM   #22
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Whoa. Hold the **** up. I don't think either side of the political spectrum was mentioned. Black people are mad because a derogatory term was said over 100 times. It's pretty much the same thing as putting "Shavorules42 is a little bitch" into a movie over 100 times.

Not even the same thing, man. "Shavorules42 is a little bitch" has never been yelled at anyone while they're doing exhausting manual labor and being beaten.

Although in retrospect, no living black person today has had that happen to them. So it's pretty much just an 'offensive word', like '******' or 'bitch' (is bitch offensive to women as a group?).
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:18 PM   #23
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Why?


@will as well:

I change my answer to "They are right to support the black community, should the majority of the black community be offended."
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This.


Somewhat on topic: I ****ing loved this movie. I wish i could hire Christoph Waltz to read me bed time stories or something.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:19 PM   #25
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how many times is the n word in one rap song?
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:19 PM   #26
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Having watched the movie, it's not like it portrays slavery in any sort of good light. There's a very clear dichotomy between "good" violence and "bad" violence. The scenes that involve slaves being beaten/tortured/forced to fight each other brutally are painful to watch. The scenes involving white slave-owners and criminals getting their brains blown out are relatively humorous.

And Spike Lee's opinion of a movie he hasn't seen, nor that he "will comment about" despite actually commenting on it, is completely worthless and should be disregarded. He's not the king of black people.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:20 PM   #27
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Do a censored version where "nigger" is replaced by "the n-word" and show how asinine it is to tiptoe around it.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:20 PM   #28
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I change my answer to "They are right to support the black community, should the majority of the black community be offended."

So Liberals have to get behind black people no matter how valid their outrage is?

Jesus christ.

And for real, can someone actually tell me what happened. Is it literally just the word nigger in a film about slavery? Because I don't know how you could make that film and not say it, often.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:21 PM   #29
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Yeah except I'm not a little bitch so I wouldn't cry about it if I saw a good movie and it happened to have a little bit of offensive wording in it.


Pretty sure you'd feel like a little bitch if millions of people heard you being called a little bitch over 100 times.

@Ali: It's sort of the same thing. No, no one yelled "Shavorules42 is a little bitch" (presumably) at Shavo as he did manual labor, but I'm sure being called the n-word made slaves feel like little bitches.
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I think this is actually the answer to 90% of situations like this.
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So Liberals have to get behind black people no matter how valid their outrage is?

Jesus christ.

And for real, can someone actually tell me what happened. Is it literally just the word nigger in a film about slavery? Because I don't know how you could make that film and not say it, often.


I didn't say they had to. I said they had the right to.
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100? Where did you read that?

I watched the movie twice.

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So Liberals have to get behind black people no matter how valid their outrage is?

Jesus christ.

And for real, can someone actually tell me what happened. Is it literally just the word nigger in a film about slavery? Because I don't know how you could make that film and not say it, often.

Yes, that's really it. And there are violent depictions of slave-owners doing shitty stuff to slaves with no room for doubt that they are the "bad guys."

Tarantino, in his typical fashion just doesn't beat around the bush and approaches everything with a deliberate lack of restraint.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:23 PM   #34
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So Liberals have to get behind black people no matter how valid their outrage is?

Jesus christ.

And for real, can someone actually tell me what happened. Is it literally just the word nigger in a film about slavery? Because I don't know how you could make that film and not say it, often.

Yes it's just that. But I think he (Spike Lee) was more upset about the prospect of a movie that deals with slavery so frankly than the use of ******
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I didn't say they had to. I said they had the right to.

You didn't say they 'had the right' you said they were 'right to', as in, you think it is right for liberals to support the black community no matter how dumb they may or may not be being.

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Yes, that's really it. And there are violent depictions of slave-owners doing shitty stuff to slaves with no room for doubt that they are the "bad guys."
So why are people offended?

None of the people in the cinema were called a nigger I presume, unless 3D has really come along since I saw Avatar. Would people rather we pretend that slavery never happened?
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Pretty sure you'd feel like a little bitch if millions of people heard you being called a little bitch over 100 times.

@Ali: It's sort of the same thing. No, no one yelled "Shavorules42 is a little bitch" (presumably) at Shavo as he did manual labor, but I'm sure being called the n-word made slaves feel like little bitches.

Um no it's not, as far as I know it's not historically accurate for people to actively say "Shavorules42 is a little bitch" whereas the opposite is true for 'nigga'
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Actually nvm you're right.
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@Ali: It's sort of the same thing. No, no one yelled "Shavorules42 is a little bitch" (presumably) at Shavo as he did manual labor, but I'm sure being called the n-word made slaves feel like little bitches.

This is like, the worst and most illogical point to connect, ever

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You didn't say they 'had the right' you said they were 'right to', as in, you think it is right for liberals to support the black community no matter how dumb they may or may not be being.

Whenever someone mentions 'the black community' or 'the gay community' etc I just imagine this very large convention with only black people/rainbows everywhere.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:27 PM   #39
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Spike lee can suck a fat dick. He sued spike tv for using "his" name. As for the nigga mcnegro ****** nignog nagnig n word, it's 2013, get real and stop being such pussies about everything that has, will, or did happen to 'offend' the conservative faux liberal group in this country.

Slavery was terrible, still is terrible, and will continue to be terrible. You cant sugar coat that shit.
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Um no it's not, as far as I know it's not historically accurate for people to actively say "Shavorules42 is a little bitch" whereas the opposite is true for 'nigga'


It's also not offensive to a massive group of people.

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You didn't say they 'had the right' you said they were 'right to', as in, you think it is right for liberals to support the black community no matter how dumb they may or may not be being.


They are justified in supporting them in this particular instance. I didn't say always.
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