Go Back   UG Community @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com > UG Community > The Pit
User Name  
Password
Search:

View Poll Results: Who will win this debate?
due 07 27 43.55%
everybody else 35 56.45%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
Old 01-03-2013, 10:45 PM   #61
Macabre_Turtle
UG's UGer
 
Macabre_Turtle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hermitage, PA
Quote:
Originally Posted by snipelfritz
They're practically the KKK, but are listed as "ragheads" or something like that in the credits. It's actually a pretty hilarious scene. They all are whining about not being able to see through the sheets for like five minutes.

And anybody find it hilarious that Spike Lee of all people is complaining about a director making a movie about white people acting badly towards black people when that's what he's built his entire career on?


Maybe he's just angry that a white guy made it, but he doesn't want to say that because that would be racist?
__________________
Macabre_Turtle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 10:46 PM   #62
Mack56
mackabre
 
Mack56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Tennessee
Quote:
Originally Posted by snipelfritz
They're practically the KKK, but are listed as "ragheads" or something like that in the credits. It's actually a pretty hilarious scene. They all are whining about not being able to see through the sheets for like five minutes.

And anybody find it hilarious that Spike Lee of all people is complaining about a director making a movie about white people acting badly towards black people when that's what he's built his entire career on?


Not that i agree with spike lee in this particular situation, you can't really compare spike lee's films with django unchained and have them equal out. Most of Spike's movies about race relations are focused solely on social commentary and things happening currently (as of their release) while DJango is just an over the top spaghetti western style revenge fantasy type thing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelsean
It's my opinion. What does someone elses opinion have to do with mine?

People need to get over shit, and move on. Sheesh.


i was making a joke, bro. Sheesh.
__________________
>Dinosauria<
>tumbl<
UG Chat Advocate

██████████████
██████████████
██████████████

Last edited by Mack56 : 01-03-2013 at 10:47 PM.
Mack56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 10:46 PM   #63
5thCircuitRider
Wild Horseman
 
5thCircuitRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Silent Hill
You know I was actually just thinking, would people be mad if this was about Jewish person who took revenge on the Nazi allied Germans that thew the word kike around a lot during WWII?

Probably not.
5thCircuitRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 10:48 PM   #64
Todd Hart
Do Sadists go to Hell?
 
Todd Hart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mack56
Not that i agree with spike lee in this particular situation, you can't really compare spike lee's films with django unchained and have them equal out. Most of Spike's movies about race relations are focused solely on social commentary and things happening currently (as of their release) while DJango is just an over the top spaghetti western style revenge fantasy type thing.


Which is of course why Quentin Tarantino is much less critically acclaimed that Spike Lee...
__________________
...Stapling helium to penguins since 1949.
Todd Hart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 10:48 PM   #65
Nelsean
Banned before Judge Trudy
 
Nelsean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: In the zone!
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5thCircuitRider
You know I was actually just thinking, would people be mad if this was about Jewish person who took revenge on the Nazi allied Germans that thew the word kike around a lot during WWII?

Probably not.


Probably. The Jewish community doesn't take kindly to antisemitism.
__________________
Without goal setting, you will never have the ability to gauge your progress and evaluate your areas of weakness.

The world can be such a terrible place at times, but keep your head up and keep pushing forward.
Nelsean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 10:48 PM   #66
willT08
UG's Jewish Seinfeld
 
willT08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Coventry/Hertford, EDMland
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5thCircuitRider
You know I was actually just thinking, would people be mad if this was about Jewish person who took revenge on the Nazi allied Germans that thew the word kike around a lot during WWII?

Probably not.

Of course not. And nobody but Spike Lee is actually mad about this, but because he is all the white-knight-liberal brigade have started feigning outrage.
__________________
Siktir Musik
Facebook
Twitter
Youtube
willT08 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 10:49 PM   #67
5thCircuitRider
Wild Horseman
 
5thCircuitRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Silent Hill
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelsean
Probably. The Jewish community doesn't take kindly to antisemitism.



The Jewish community doesn't have a Spike Lee.
5thCircuitRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 10:49 PM   #68
Nelsean
Banned before Judge Trudy
 
Nelsean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: In the zone!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mack56
i was making a joke, bro. Sheesh.


My apologies, but sarcasm/jokes can come off as hostile in something as fueled as this topic online.
__________________
Without goal setting, you will never have the ability to gauge your progress and evaluate your areas of weakness.

The world can be such a terrible place at times, but keep your head up and keep pushing forward.
Nelsean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 10:51 PM   #69
scorpion618^
Registered User
 
scorpion618^'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Well, I am white. So there's that.

When I saw Django, any use of the word ******, to me, just made the bad people seem worse. It was use in a demeaning fashion (as it would have been back then) and to me, helped make the story better.

I hate any racial slurs used simply to offend. I'm of Irish descent, and if someone calls me a Mick just to piss me off... It does. But I don't think that word was really used to push boundaries or offend. It showed exactly how those people viewed slaves. They didn't even see them as people. They were just ******s, and treated them like less than human. It created a deeper understanding of the depravity of those people and also helped make the story more realistic. If the point of the movie was to show how inferior black people were, I would be upset. But Tarantino showed how crappy the slave owners (and racist assholes) were.
scorpion618^ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 10:57 PM   #70
bradulator
yep
 
bradulator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: octopussy
Spike Lee is a dbag.

I Know This Because He Types Like This On Twitter.

https://twitter.com/SpikeLee
__________________
bradulator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 11:02 PM   #71
snipelfritz
UG's Maggot Brain
 
snipelfritz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Milwaukee
Quote:
Originally Posted by bradulator
Spike Lee is a dbag.

I Know This Because He Types Like This On Twitter.

https://twitter.com/SpikeLee

God that's the most annoying thing ever. And not just the capitalization, but the content too.
__________________
BOOM-SHAKALAKALAKA-BOOM-SHAKALAKUNGA
snipelfritz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 11:04 PM   #72
Saint78
should've got noided
 
Saint78's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: walking into a sign
Quote:
Originally Posted by snipelfritz
God that's the most annoying thing ever. And not just the capitalization, but the content too.


Wrong.
This is the most annoying thing ever.
https://twitter.com/FillWerrell
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thrashtastic15
woody guthrie would never support the flagrant worker abuse present in the coffee industry you patriarchal authoritarian government supporting bush loving fascist anti american hitler-lite


Saint78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 11:06 PM   #73
5thCircuitRider
Wild Horseman
 
5thCircuitRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Silent Hill
Quote:
Originally Posted by snipelfritz
God that's the most annoying thing ever. And not just the capitalization, but the content too.


https://twitter.com/fakeKshields
5thCircuitRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 11:07 PM   #74
Saint78
should've got noided
 
Saint78's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: walking into a sign
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5thCircuitRider


That's great
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thrashtastic15
woody guthrie would never support the flagrant worker abuse present in the coffee industry you patriarchal authoritarian government supporting bush loving fascist anti american hitler-lite


Saint78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 11:12 PM   #75
TooktheAtrain
Registered User
 
TooktheAtrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by snipelfritz
Tarantino, in his typical fashion just doesn't beat around the bush and approaches everything with a deliberate lack of restraint or nuance.


Fixed. It isn't racist, but does it trivialize the history? I think it does.
Quote:
Originally Posted by OP
should black people be offended by this stuff? Should white people be laughing at the humoristic use of the n word? Or should everybody just lighten up and watch the movie?


The idea that blacks 'should' react in any particular way makes your post more racist than the film. The idea that there's a valid and invalid way of reacting to depictions of racial history makes you look clueless.

Last edited by TooktheAtrain : 01-03-2013 at 11:18 PM.
TooktheAtrain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 11:12 PM   #76
snipelfritz
UG's Maggot Brain
 
snipelfritz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Milwaukee
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint78
That's great

That it is

Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeKevinShields
Some #Loveless trivia: If you play the record backwards, our shoes are actually gazing at us.

__________________
BOOM-SHAKALAKALAKA-BOOM-SHAKALAKUNGA
snipelfritz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 11:14 PM   #77
Crazyedd123
UG's Primus fanboy
 
Crazyedd123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
As a 'liberal' I think nothing should be censored, and I hate the way things get sugar-coated because the director's neighbour's dog didn't like the colour of the words in the credits.
__________________
Breakfast, Breakfast, it's great for us
We eat, we eat, we eat
That frozen meat
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, it can't be beat
Crazyedd123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 11:25 PM   #78
Omniscient G
Registered Sex Offender
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
This movie takes place in the South two years before the civil war and people are getting butthurt that the word ****** was used? Jesus Christ, **** off people. Quit being so sensitive.
Omniscient G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 11:42 PM   #79
Macabre_Turtle
UG's UGer
 
Macabre_Turtle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hermitage, PA
Quote:
Originally Posted by willT08
Of course not. And nobody but Spike Lee is actually mad about this, but because he is all the white-knight-liberal brigade have started feigning outrage.


No. Do not pull this shit.
__________________
Macabre_Turtle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 11:49 PM   #80
Peres.T.Peanut
Registered User
 
Peres.T.Peanut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
__________________
Quote:
Hey Im Looking For Some Tech Death Metal In D

Quote:
try anything form avenged sevenfold

I lol'ed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Basti95
inb4 everyone else, well played
Peres.T.Peanut is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:33 AM.

Forum Archives / About / Terms of Use / Advertise / Contact / Ultimate-Guitar.Com © 2013
Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.