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Old 01-03-2013, 10:35 PM   #21
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There are virtually none in Pennsylvania, but they're all over the place in New Jersey. I think they're kind of inconvenient.

Isn't having traffic lights at every intersection more inconvenient? That seems like such a pain in the ass.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:35 PM   #22
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I only know of one that's nearby, and you have to look for the freakin' thing.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:35 PM   #23
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There's a pretty busy one about a mile or two away from my house.

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Old 01-03-2013, 10:36 PM   #24
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Isn't having traffic lights at every intersection more inconvenient? That seems like such a pain in the ass.

There's generally only lights at very busy intersections, everywhere else is stop signs.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:36 PM   #25
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American roads are all grid like, it's really weird to look at on google maps for someone from England.
I thought our roundabouts were bad, but in France they're even more ******ed. Most ridiculous example:
Arc de Triomphe in Paris


Holy shit it is so dangerous. There aren't any lanes or anything, and the French drive like they don't want to live anyway.

Also, devourke I thought you were murican?
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:37 PM   #26
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You give way to the left (I'm assuming you guys give way the opposite way to NZ) and people to your right give way to you. You go around the circle until your exit and then you exit and drive away. When you're only driving in urban areas, it's way more convenient than traffic lights.

Seems confusing.

Good thing I live in America, land of the free and home of the non-confusing.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:38 PM   #27
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There were a few where I used to live but I haven't seen any in Arizona.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:38 PM   #28
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There's generally only lights at very busy intersections, everywhere else is stop signs.

So you just have an open intersection with four stop signs? Fuck that man, I know how many people there are that think they're too good to indicate, that shit sounds dangerous as hell.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:39 PM   #29
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They're death traps and very uncommon.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:40 PM   #30
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Seems confusing.

Good thing I live in America, land of the free and home of the non-confusing.

Like the other dude said, if someone's coming at you, you just stay put. Anything else and it's go time.
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Also, devourke I thought you were murican?

I talk shit about how awesome America is, but no I'm actually a New Zealander.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:40 PM   #31
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:40 PM   #32
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They did improvements to the mall where I live, and put in a roundabout. It has two lanes, though. Which apparently is confusing for everyone, as I've yet to see someone use it correctly.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:40 PM   #33
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So you just have an open intersection with four stop signs? Fuck that man, I know how many people there are that think they're too good to indicate, that shit sounds dangerous as hell.

Most medium-large intersections have traffic lights, usually only small roads and residential areas have four-way stop signs.

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Old 01-03-2013, 10:41 PM   #34
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Isn't having traffic lights at every intersection more inconvenient? That seems like such a pain in the ass.

Lots of roundabouts have traffic lights too.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:41 PM   #35
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There's a few around here. For larger roads with heavy traffic, they're absolutely insane and complete deathtraps. With lighter traffic they're alright.

But for smaller roads, especially ones with heavy traffic, they're a fucking godsend. Like, they need to be at all smaller road intersections. Four-way stop signs are horrible and roundabouts render them obsolete.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:41 PM   #36
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So you just have an open intersection with four stop signs? Fuck that man, I know how many people there are that think they're too good to indicate, that shit sounds dangerous as hell.


Roundabouts make sense to me (although I've never had to deal with anything like the Arc de Triomphe) but four way intersections are only dangerous because of speeding people. Other than they make as much sense.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:41 PM   #37
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I've seen some, just not very common around here. A town in my general area put one in ~5 years ago and I've had to drive through it recently. No one seemed to actually understand what to do and I got flipped off for doing it correctly.

Then again there is a 3 way stop at a semi-busy intersection in my town and I usually get flipped off when I'm coming from the side that doesn't have a stop sign.

Here's a diagram because I am bored.


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Old 01-03-2013, 10:41 PM   #38
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They're death traps and very uncommon.


How are they death traps? You can't enter a roundabout with any force unless you're utterly incompetent, so jack-knifing someone with the kind of force at a crossroads is impossible, and everyone travels around the center at the same speed and in the same direction, so accidents have very little force behind them.

Edit: Jesus, do you have really bad driving schools in America or something? Roundabouts are the easiest thing, siriusly guyz.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:41 PM   #39
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There's a couple extremely busy freeway exits like 40 miles from where I live and the on ramps go straight into round abouts. Driving through that is the scariest thing I've ever done.

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Old 01-03-2013, 10:42 PM   #40
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Lots of roundabouts have traffic lights too.

In America? Because I've only ever seen one roundabout with traffic lights in NZ, and it's less of a roundabout and more of a giant circle road.

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