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Old 01-05-2013, 06:39 PM   #41
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returned the eganter, got a floor model. works fine. at home too. sounds great

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Old 01-06-2013, 03:39 AM   #42
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Also, just in case, make sure no matter what the case here that you are using a quality speaker cable. It's worth parting with the extra money for one with a lifetime warranty that isn't going to fart out anytime soon. It's THE MOST important cable in your rig. Having it fail means having your OT in your amp fail, which is the most expensive component to have replaced.


Can you link me to a decent speaker cable? I'v got a shitty $10 cable but what you just said made way too much sense to me.
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:42 AM   #43
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Can you link me to a decent speaker cable? I'v got a shitty $10 cable but what you just said made way too much sense to me.


http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...4-speaker-cable

You can spend more if you want.
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:52 AM   #44
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I would get this instead. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...331141000000103

Regular jacks you can screw off and repair if you want to, not to mention lifetime warranty no questions asked. I don't care for Monster as a company, way overpriced crap.

Not to mention that that Live Wire is actually a better cable - 14 gauge instead of 16.
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:11 AM   #45
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I would get this instead. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...331141000000103

Regular jacks you can screw off and repair if you want to, not to mention lifetime warranty no questions asked. I don't care for Monster as a company, way overpriced crap.

Not to mention that that Live Wire is actually a better cable - 14 gauge instead of 16.


I'v got Live Wire instrument cables and actually like them pretty well. I'm confused though 14 gauge is superior to 16? would 12 be better still?
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Yep. The lower the gauge, the higher the quality.
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:17 AM   #47
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Did not know that. Many thanks.

Edit: So this is I have, but its 12 gage so its actually pretty decent? http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...500522000302094

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Old 01-06-2013, 04:18 AM   #48
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I'v got Live Wire instrument cables and actually like them pretty well. I'm confused though 14 gauge is superior to 16? would 12 be better still?

It would be able to handle more power/ have less voltage drop.

Personally I like cables that I can unscrew and resolder when needed.
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Yours is 10 feet? That's ridiculous, you only need 3 unless you're running across a stage or using a full stack.

12 gauge should be better, yes, but it is Musician's Friend brand... that might mean something

I do use some MF gear, but usually not anything electrically sensitive.
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:31 AM   #50
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It would be able to handle more power/ have less voltage drop.

Personally I like cables that I can unscrew and resolder when needed.


Yeah, 10ft was the shortest they had of that brand. I figured extra wouldn't really hurt anyways.

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Yours is 10 feet? That's ridiculous, you only need 3 unless you're running across a stage or using a full stack.

12 gauge should be better, yes, but it is Musician's Friend brand... that might mean something

I do use some MF gear, but usually not anything electrically sensitive.


yeah that's kinda what had put me off on it in the first place. that and $1:1ft ratio seems fishy now that i'm seeing some of the others.
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Yeah, 10ft was the shortest they had of that brand. I figured extra wouldn't really hurt anyways.



yeah that's kinda what had put me off on it in the first place. that and $1:1ft ratio seems fishy now that i'm seeing some of the others.

Monster cable doesn't hit that ration until you go over 50 feet, lol
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Yours is 10 feet? That's ridiculous, you only need 3 unless you're running across a stage or using a full stack.

12 gauge should be better, yes, but it is Musician's Friend brand... that might mean something

I do use some MF gear, but usually not anything electrically sensitive.


Absolutely right on keeping it shorter. 3 feet for a head on top of a cab is plenty.

That was just an example. Nothing wrong with monster either. 10 bucks for that cable, lifetime warranty. I have had a bunch of them going on 7 years without a single issue.

Gauge number has nothing to do with quality. It's the diameter of the wire. 12 is smaller than 10. 14 is smaller than 12 and so on.
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Absolutely right on keeping it shorter. 3 feet for a head on top of a cab is plenty.

That was just an example. Nothing wrong with monster either. 10 bucks for that cable, lifetime warranty. I have had a bunch of them going on 7 years without a single issue.

Gauge number has nothing to do with quality. It's the diameter of the wire. 12 is smaller than 10. 14 is smaller than 12 and so on.

It has nothing to do with quality, but it will increase how much power can be run through it.
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It has nothing to do with quality, but it will increase how much power can be run through it.


It sure can. Does not mean its quality though.

TS- the gauge size is AWG- American measurements.
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It sure can. Does not mean its quality though.

TS- the gauge size is AWG- American measurements.

I know there is no correlation between the thickness and quality. However wouldn't a thicker cable make for less voltage drop and allow more signal through?
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Sounds good. I'll have to pick myself up a better cable next time I'm at the Center. Thanks guys.
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:07 PM   #57
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I also recommend the Monster Cable, although I bought their higher quality one for my speaker cable. It wasn't that much more expensive, and I wasn't about to cheap out in that department. Whether or not it actually provides any bonus or improved quality is to be determined, but it gives me the peace of mind that I didn't spare any expense for that part.

I'm pretty OCD about my speaker cable, though. One simple mistake and I fried my amp. In fact, I've used electrical tape to tape over every jack on my head and cab that I don't use so that I only have one option for each end of that cable.

I accidentally plugged my backup amp (friend's Blues Junior) into the wrong plug on my cab at a gig once and it took me a while to realize that it was the issue of why I had no sound. Luckily, it was fine, but I learned my lesson.

As for getting a cable that is quality, my philosophy on that is just to get one with a lifetime warranty. If a company is guaranteeing that their cable will last you a lifetime or else they'll replace it for free, then it's going to be quality or they're going to be out of business soon. Personally, I stick with Monster Cable, but there are plenty of quality brands, including Live Wire.
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I'm pretty OCD about my speaker cable, though. One simple mistake and I fried my amp. In fact, I've used electrical tape to tape over every jack on my head and cab that I don't use so that I only have one option for each end of that cable.


That's a good idea. I always wanted to put colored tape on my cables and colored tape under/over the jacks they correspond to, but that's a good idea as well.
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I would recommend the speaker cable being completely different than any of the instrument cables that way you do not confuse them.
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Not sure about Monster but I know Live Wire uses a black sleeve instead of the blue on their instrument cables.
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