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Old 01-12-2013, 12:41 PM   #1
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combine two amps for one sound?

So I want to try combining my Bogner Uberschall and Mesa Dual Rectifier to create a crushing wall of tone (I heard some artists do this - mark tremonti is one of them).


How the eff do I do this?

Do I run a seperate cab for each amp indepedently?
Do I run both amps through the same cab?
Do I rewire the cab (its a 2x12) so each speaker has its own independent input for each amp?

Whats the best way to do this without running into frying the circuits or tonal issues?
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:42 PM   #2
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Use one cab for each amp and an A/B/Y box between your guitar and the amps.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:53 PM   #3
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It's called stereo.
Buy a second 2x12 and a quality ABY box.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:55 PM   #4
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This is an extremely popular studio technique - running a single guitar into one or more amps, then recording the result for a customized tone you'll never achieve at home. As Roc mentioned, an A/B/Y will work. They also make special boxes that split the signal, so you can send it to more than one amp. As you split the signal, its level will drop. An active splitter will make sure that each amp gets an input that's equal to the one being sent from the guitar. It will also take care of impedance changes, so the original tone remains untouched.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:12 PM   #5
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Get another cab (or replace yours with a stereo 4x12) and a Radial Twin City and you'll be golden.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:16 PM   #6
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I am not sure getting two cabs would be practical for gigging purposes (have to set up two mics..not sure if most sound techs would like this complication).

How about splitting my 2x12 into stereo?
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:26 PM   #7
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How is setting up two mics any more difficult than setting up one?

Even if you split your 2x12 into stereo, you'd still want two mics. I would. Have you ever recorded a miked guitar cab?
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:27 PM   #8
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I am not sure getting two cabs would be practical for gigging purposes (have to set up two mics..not sure if most sound techs would like this complication).


He isn't going to mic his amps, he is talking about amp heads.
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:37 PM   #9
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I am not sure getting two cabs would be practical for gigging purposes (have to set up two mics..not sure if most sound techs would like this complication).

How about splitting my 2x12 into stereo?


I seriously doubt each of the speakers in your cab can handle a Mesa and a Bogner each.

And in any case, you'd still need 2 mics because each speaker would be putting out a different sound, not the combined sound coming out of both speakers.

Though Radial might make a pedal that can do that.
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:46 PM   #10
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As already mentioned 3X, you need a 2nd cab.

Routing 2 amps to a 212 wouldn't give you what you want and your speaker choices would be very restricted.
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:54 PM   #11
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i have actually used separate cabs and stereo 2x12's. the stereo 2x12 was convenient (i ran very high watt rated speakers in the 2x12, over 100 watts a piece), kept me from lugging two cabs. but it also didn't create a very effective 'stereo field' so it blended the tones really well.

the separate cab gave me more tonal options (i could pick my speaker combinations), was a bit harder to move around cuz the extra cab and also distributed my sound around more. if i were to use separate cabs today i'd probably get 1x12's.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:27 PM   #12
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I have a stereo Randall 2x12 with 2 x 120 Legends in it for this purpose. If I wanted to, of course.

When I play in stereo, I usually just have two complete half stacks going. Not practical for live use on a small stage though. But that's where the stereo 2x12 comes in.
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