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Old 01-09-2013, 02:08 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Advice please on presents for Guitar mad nephew

Hi All,

I joined this site to get some expert advice from other Guitar fanatics, as I am not one myself. My 18 year old nephew got a guitar for Xmas, and its his birthday coming up soon.

I thought of buying him a DVD showing him how to do some awesome guitar licks/riffs or maybe a book that someone else can recommend ????

He seems to be keen on Phoenix, Fall Out Boy, Biffy Clyro, Queen Kwong, Bakken, Roadkill Ghost Choir, Lost Prophets ....hope this gives a kinda taste of the kind of music he likes.

Any ideas you have got regarding birthday presents....dvd/books/etc will be gratefully received by me.

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Old 01-09-2013, 02:48 PM   #2
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If he has a console or PC f you hunt then Rocksmith would be a great present, and whilst it's no substitute for a teacher it's certainly something that can help him stay motivated. Don't get me wrong, it will NOT teach him how to play the guitar by any stretch of the imagination but it is fun and another way to get used to having the guitar in your hands.

http://www.play.com/Search.html?sea...ype=allproducts
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb...words=rocksmith

I wouldn't really recommend getting an instructional DVD at this stage as in my experience they tend to be more use to intermediate/advanced players, I don't think there's an awful lot out there that's really going to have much real value.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:07 PM   #3
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It's going to be pretty tricky because everything surrounding guitars is pretty personal. Did he get another guitar for Christmas or is this his first? In other words, did he just start playing?
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:13 PM   #4
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Thanks folks, yes its his first guitar, but he knew how to tune it and play some basic chords so he wasn't a complete novice.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:23 PM   #5
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Yeah I was just assuming you were in the UK like me but obviously I have no idea where you are!

These little multi-tools are a really handy thing for guitarists too, all the stuff you need to maintain it.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Farleys-JP-...57759324&sr=8-4

also moved to the gear forum as it's probably the best fit
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:49 PM   #6
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We are in London, if that helps you..
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:55 PM   #7
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We are in London, if that helps you..

Then if you can stretch to around 30 he'd be made up with Rocksmith, assuming he has a console or PC he can play games on.

All depends on how much you like your nephew
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:10 PM   #8
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Yes, I can stretch to that. I'm very grateful for your ideas. will check them all out. Cheers !
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:30 PM   #9
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Pick punch maybe?
The most discouraging thing to practice is not being able to locate a pick.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:37 PM   #10
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Yngwie Malmsteen Guitar Tuition DVD. Best way to learn.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:05 PM   #11
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when i started out my family bought all these books and DVDs and such for me and nothing helped. theres no human interaction and it takes some serious discipline.

rocksmith seems pretty cool for a beginner.

the BEST present would be to get him at least one lesson with a teacher.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:52 PM   #12
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Everybody here is going to give you different advice, but you need to trust us, as I've been coming here for a good three or so years (Three in March) and the people here mean well and often enough talk sense.

The only thing about getting a lesson with a teacher is that it could either make or break a kid wanting to pick up an instrument. I know when my parents tried to get me lessons (Originally) I quit straight away because the teacher wasn't very good.

Good players don't always make the best teachers, but. If he's willing to put a bit of effort in, there's plenty of good Youtube teachers out there (Justinguitar being the one I always think of) but getting a lesson might be a good start.

I'm a +1 on the Rocksmith idea, but I've not touched it. So I can't say how good it is.
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That is if you want to spend ~ 50/60 quid on his present. Most guitarists would like that but I don't know how appealing a guitar magazine such as Premier Guitar* would be to beginners.

*or whatever that famous UK one is. Guitarist?
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:04 AM   #15
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just to echo, i have only seen one book in the last 8 or so years worth buying for me. when i was new people would give me books, and i didn't find them overly useful. the book i have is geared to more advanced blues improv.

again to echo, i loved guitar world when i was 13-17 years old. it has always been a pretty good magazine, there is enough substance to learn something, plus a lot of pictures, and fun stuff in there.

i don't really know what rocksmith is exactly, but have heard positive things about it consistently, but i can't give you a solid opinion because i haven't tried one.

that multitool recommend further up would be handy too. whenever i need to make an adjustment and i search through a bag of probably 100 allen wrenches, and hate taking the time to the right size. but keep in mind i have both metric and standard because a majority of my guitars are US guitars, with most of the remainder being from japan.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:39 PM   #17
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Half ounce of bud and maybe a wah pedal. (If you reallly love him)

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seriously? that is not anywhere near appropriate in this thread.
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I'm going to give Rocksmith a +1 and give books/DVD's/Lessons a -1

The issue is that Lessons generally go over stuff like Theory and Technique, which are highly likely to bore him to death. Gratned, these are important things to know, but it's more important that he stay interested in his instrument. DVD's and Books are also pretty dry and unlikely to hold his attention.

Rocksmith on the other hand is going to be a solid investment. I've been playing guitar for 15 years now, my girlfriend has been playing for about 6 years, and her little brother and Step-Dad are new to guitar. Her Step-Dad bought Rocksmith for he and his son for Christmas as something to do together, and they both thoroughly enjoyed it as novices. Then, my girlfriend and I played it, and we both thoroughly enjoyed it as intermediate and advanced players.

I think that Steven Seagull is incorrect in saying that you can't learn guitar from it. You certainly won't learn theory or advanced technique, but there is plenty to learn from it. It has excercises for most basic techinques, exercises to build muscle memory, and plenty of learning tools built in to it. He'll be learning songs that he's probably heard on the radio, and you unlock gear that you can play with, which gives you a good idea of what different gear and the various controls they have do.

Personally, I was VERY skeptical about this game when it was released, and I had heard some mixed reviews, but after seeing it and playing it myself, I'm thoroughly impressed. There is absolutely no negativity in the game such as "failing" or "difficulty levels", etc. It scales its difficulty with you, and you can miss every note in the song and there will be no mention of failing or any indication that stresses you to stop sucking.

In fact, the difficulty scaling was one thing that impressed me. I was watching my girlfriend play, and she was doing well, so it was building up more and more each time she played a riff. As she did better, it added more notes. Well, then it came to a point where she missed one or two, and half of the upcoming notes immediately dissappeared.

I really would say you can't go wrong with this. The key with new players is to keep them interested and excited, and usually, theory and technique is NOT a good way to do that. Those are things that can be built up and focued on more later, when they become a concern for him. Even then, he can find plenty of online resources, even just on this site, for learning theory, exercises, and technique.

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seriously? that is not anywhere near appropriate in this thread.

Not quite, no. The statement was inteded to be fairly tongue-in-cheek. Though the wah pedal would be a fun device for the fella to play around with. Also something to consider would be a live DVD of one of his favorite groups, watching the bands play gives a better understanding of the songs are played.

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