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Old 01-13-2013, 08:00 PM   #41
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Not necessarily, in the same way that a guitarist is not necessarily a musician.

Please name me a guitarist who is not a musician.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:01 PM   #42
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I would call them more of an arranger but not a musician.
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:00 AM   #43
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And an arranger is not a musician?
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:08 AM   #44
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Please name me a guitarist who is not a musician.


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Old 01-14-2013, 08:46 AM   #45
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Tangential, but I found this hilarious:

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Batio has an advanced knowledge of music theory, having a deep understanding of complex scale combinations and time signatures which assist him in his compositions. Batio has cited F-sharp minor and F-sharp phrygian dominant as one of his favorite keys. He has described F sharp minor as a "demonic" key, giving a dark, evil sound.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:58 AM   #46
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why does that have to be too large to sig, oh man
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:30 AM   #47
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Aphex Twin is very real. Look up 'windowlicker' on whatever music player you use. Never heard of the other guy though.


Uses guitar forum, has never heard of MAB.

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Old 01-14-2013, 10:39 AM   #48
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Uses guitar forum, has never heard of MAB.


this is a music theory forum get out this is our domain and most of us don't even play guitar
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:18 AM   #49
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Uses guitar forum, has never heard of MAB.


Uses guitar forum, has been playing guitar for 28 years, has passed guitar exams, is studying composition. Has never heard of MAB.

I'm sure he's a nice guy and all that but he doesn't strike me as anything special.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:24 AM   #50
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On appearance, it doesn't seem that hard but, admittedly, I'm not even sure what's involved. I dunno, you tell me.


If he also writes any sort of electronic music then yes.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:36 AM   #51
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And an arranger is not a musician?

no? if he plays an instrument then he is a musician (too), if he doesnt, then he's a... BINGO! Arranger!

even Zimmer says in an interview 'i'm a terrible musician' if I remember correctly. that means he write music, doesnt perform. Why make it all complicated and put everyone who does various things in music and name them all musician?

wouldn't the following scenario be quite obvious then?
-I'm a musician
-oh cool what do you do though?
-well I arrange music.



you just say you're an arranger
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Old 01-14-2013, 03:29 PM   #52
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I'm fascinated by the fact that 80% of the people using a guitar tab web site named Ultimate Guitar don't play guitar!
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Old 01-14-2013, 03:32 PM   #53
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I'm fascinated by the fact that 80% of the people using a guitar tab web site named Ultimate Guitar don't play guitar!


i only post here to spite guitarists, tablature, and people

@zimmer: the reason he says that he's a terrible musician isn't because he doesn't play an instrument. he's just a terrible musician lol
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:06 PM   #54
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So it really isn't OUR domain then.....is it?
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:12 PM   #55
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this is MT, boy. learn your place and go back to GT with the other inferior instrumentalists
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:14 PM   #56
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:30 PM   #57
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A musician is one who makes music. If you're just arranging the music, then you're not a musician. If you start manipulating the sounds of the music that other people made, you're not a musician, you're a ****** who spits in the face of real musicians and says "Oh look, what you made isn't as good as i could have made it, even though i don't know music theory, don't play an instrument, can't hear intervals, don't listen to anything outside of 4/4 time (and if there was a song that isn't 4/4 time than i think it sounds out of beat) and don't plan on doing so hehehe".

As you can see, i don't think DJ's are musicians.
A person who creates sounds on a computer is a musician. In fact, i would call them composers, they are creating their own melody lines and putting them together the way they want. Just because they are using a computer doesn't mean they aren't making music. But true Disc Jockeys are not making their own music, they are using other peoples music and scratching it or slowing it down or w.e. But it isn't theirs. They are stealing it.
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:18 PM   #58
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i only post here to spite guitarists, tablature, and people

@zimmer: the reason he says that he's a terrible musician isn't because he doesn't play an instrument. he's just a terrible musician lol

but that doesnt make him a bad composer right? he just doesnt play well


you just proved my point
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:57 PM   #59
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but that doesnt make him a bad composer right? he just doesnt play well


you just proved my point


musicians make music. instrumentalists play instruments.

and zimmer needs to get draugr'd outta this hoe, that lil bitch aint got shit on the rap game, aint got shit about nothin

@mac: what about top 40 cover bands? you try and make 4+ hours of material that's all hits and crowd pleasers. just because he has a different method of delivery (that's arguably a lot more efficient than a sound engineer + several musicians) and doesn't need to employ traditional instruments to make sounds (even if they aren't his own, though most DJs now play their own material outside of regular club/party gigs, just like most cover bands) doesn't mean he's a fake or a liar.

i mean, have you even been homeless, bro?

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Old 01-15-2013, 12:16 AM   #60
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A musician is one who makes music. If you're just arranging the music, then you're not a musician. If you start manipulating the sounds of the music that other people made, you're not a musician, you're a ****** who spits in the face of real musicians and says "Oh look, what you made isn't as good as i could have made it, even though i don't know music theory, don't play an instrument, can't hear intervals, don't listen to anything outside of 4/4 time (and if there was a song that isn't 4/4 time than i think it sounds out of beat) and don't plan on doing so hehehe".

As you can see, i don't think DJ's are musicians.
A person who creates sounds on a computer is a musician. In fact, i would call them composers, they are creating their own melody lines and putting them together the way they want. Just because they are using a computer doesn't mean they aren't making music. But true Disc Jockeys are not making their own music, they are using other peoples music and scratching it or slowing it down or w.e. But it isn't theirs. They are stealing it.

You seem a bit insecure and personal about this matter.
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