Hydra150

Please name me a guitarist who is not a musician.

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TomSawyerRush

I would call them more of an arranger but not a musician.

LiquidSkies

And an arranger is not a musician?

Hail

80% of UG

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TheHydra

Tangential, but I found this hilarious:

Hail

why does that have to be too large to sig, oh man

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Wesbanez

Uses guitar forum, has never heard of MAB.

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Hail

this is a music theory forum get out this is our domain and most of us don't even play guitar

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Sleepy__Head

Uses guitar forum, has been playing guitar for 28 years, has passed guitar exams, is studying composition. Has never heard of MAB.

I'm sure he's a nice guy and all that but he doesn't strike me as anything special.

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Sethis

If he also writes any sort of electronic music then yes.

Vendetta V

no? if he plays an instrument then he is a musician (too), if he doesnt, then he's a... BINGO! Arranger!

even Zimmer says in an interview 'i'm a terrible musician' if I remember correctly. that means he write music, doesnt perform. Why make it all complicated and put everyone who does various things in music and name them all musician?

wouldn't the following scenario be quite obvious then?
-I'm a musician
-oh cool what do you do though?
-well I arrange music.



you just say you're an arranger

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TVeye

I'm fascinated by the fact that 80% of the people using a guitar tab web site named Ultimate Guitar don't play guitar!

Hail

i only post here to spite guitarists, tablature, and people

@zimmer: the reason he says that he's a terrible musician isn't because he doesn't play an instrument. he's just a terrible musician lol

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TVeye

So it really isn't OUR domain then.....is it?

Hail

this is MT, boy. learn your place and go back to GT with the other inferior instrumentalists

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Peaceful Rocker

My uncle used to play bass for Batio

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macashmack

A musician is one who makes music. If you're just arranging the music, then you're not a musician. If you start manipulating the sounds of the music that other people made, you're not a musician, you're a ****** who spits in the face of real musicians and says "Oh look, what you made isn't as good as i could have made it, even though i don't know music theory, don't play an instrument, can't hear intervals, don't listen to anything outside of 4/4 time (and if there was a song that isn't 4/4 time than i think it sounds out of beat) and don't plan on doing so hehehe".

As you can see, i don't think DJ's are musicians.
A person who creates sounds on a computer is a musician. In fact, i would call them composers, they are creating their own melody lines and putting them together the way they want. Just because they are using a computer doesn't mean they aren't making music. But true Disc Jockeys are not making their own music, they are using other peoples music and scratching it or slowing it down or w.e. But it isn't theirs. They are stealing it.

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Vendetta V

but that doesnt make him a bad composer right? he just doesnt play well


you just proved my point

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Hail

musicians make music. instrumentalists play instruments.

and zimmer needs to get draugr'd outta this hoe, that lil bitch aint got shit on the rap game, aint got shit about nothin

@mac: what about top 40 cover bands? you try and make 4+ hours of material that's all hits and crowd pleasers. just because he has a different method of delivery (that's arguably a lot more efficient than a sound engineer + several musicians) and doesn't need to employ traditional instruments to make sounds (even if they aren't his own, though most DJs now play their own material outside of regular club/party gigs, just like most cover bands) doesn't mean he's a fake or a liar.

i mean, have you even been homeless, bro?

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