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Old 01-15-2013, 02:02 AM   #61
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Is someone who drives 5-miles to work every day a race car driver? Is the kid who sits in front of a computer monitor playing a $50 flight simulator program a pilot?

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Is a person who spins vinyl or CDs a musician? No. It makes them a DJ. By definition, a musician is one who plays a musical instrument. Playing a CD does not make one a composer, conductor or performer of music. If that's the case, then everyone who listens to music is a musician.

I eat bread. Does that make me a baker?

this is horrendous, all of it

like you started off bad and then just explored depths of inaccuracy previously uncharted by our humble species

think i'm gonna take another couple weeks hiatus from this place, that was just

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Old 01-15-2013, 02:08 AM   #62
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was gonna start commenting on your "is someone" statements and their impeccable logic, but is someone who posts on a forum really an orange?
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:20 AM   #63
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but the DJ inputs a pattern to produce a melody(hopefully). I dont think it really matters if the computer repeats the pattern so long as the DJ is trying to make a melody with that pattern.[img]*********************************/images/24.gif[/img][img]*********************************/images/25.gif[/img][img]*********************************/images/26.gif[/img][img]*********************************/images/27.gif[/img][img]*********************************/images/28.gif[/img]

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Old 01-20-2013, 08:25 AM   #64
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and zimmer needs to get draugr'd outta this hoe, that lil bitch aint got shit on the rap game, aint got shit about nothin


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But true Disc Jockeys are not making their own music, they are using other peoples music and scratching it or slowing it down or w.e. But it isn't theirs. They are stealing it.


I doubt any DJ spinning some records would say it's his music to begin with
And, really, they pay a lot of money to buy their records so they have a right to use them. If you sample sounds from other records, you pay money to get permission to use them. It's all perfectly legal. And the result can very well be music.

Scratching records on turntables also qualifies as a percussion instrument.

I recommend listening to DJ Shadow (esp. "Endtroducing..."), and then maybe some DJ Krush?
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:20 PM   #65
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Yes, even the "just-blend-the-songs-together" DJ

Even like mixing songs into each other in a cool way and keeping the vibe going yes. They use the music to evoke the emotion that makes people wanna dance. They blend songs together in a way that keeps the vibe going.

Just because it 'is not their music' does not make them non musicians. Am I not a musician If I'm in a cover band? It's the same thing. A DJ would 'cover' songs at a club or something. It's why the job exists at all instead of having an iPod on shuffle.

All y'all saying that "oh it's not an instrument hurr durr" anything that makes a sound can be an instrument.

And ther est of you saying "oh lol they dont know how to music theory hurr durr". You have no clue what goes into producing tracks. I dare you to even try, most of you will probably just give up at thinking of a good melody.

And even if it's the spin-the-vinyl guy, he has to match the tempos and pitches together in a way that doesn't sound terrible, which takes ear. "They still don't know theory and that makes them unmusician hurrrrrpp", you say as you listen to your Hendrix record. I scoff at you sir.

I mean, a musician by definition is someone that makes music yeah? Don't DJs and Producers and Arrangers etc whatever do exactly that?
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:54 AM   #66
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Just because it 'is not their music' does not make them non musicians.


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Old 01-21-2013, 10:25 AM   #67
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I guess you can call them musicians, cause they actually make music, whether they are remixing or not.
But what i'm sure of, is that a turntable or that mixing stuff is NOT an instrument, so you would not be a player of any instrument, you'd be a mixer, or engineer, dont know exactly.

I like instrument playing musicians.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:52 AM   #68
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I guess you can call them musicians, cause they actually make music, whether they are remixing or not.
But what i'm sure of, is that a turntable or that mixing stuff is NOT an instrument, so you would not be a player of any instrument, you'd be a mixer, or engineer, dont know exactly.

I like instrument playing musicians.


Instrument: from Old English "tool, implement, utensil".

Decks are a tool for making sounds, just like a hairdryer, plastic bottle and some water are instruments if used in the right way.

A musical instrument (= a musical tool*) is anything that's used to make music, a musician is someone who is skilled in making music, and music is an art that uses sound and silence as its media.

I like musicians who write or play complex music that bears repeated listening and reveals depth when considered in the abstract. That doesn't mean Whigfield's "Saturday Night" isn't music though, even if I think (as I do) it's tedious to listen to.

* Not to be confused with Simon Cowell, who is just a tool.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:49 PM   #69
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You seem a bit insecure and personal about this matter.


Maybe a DJ stole his girl
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:20 PM   #70
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The Cover Band/Turntable analogy is absurd.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:57 PM   #71
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Ever seen John Williams in concert? It's exactly like listening to one of his recordings, with the addition people coughing.

Sometimes people who play covers (which is, essentially, what JW does) don't differ in many important audible aspects from just putting on a record.

So I move that the cover band / turntable analogy is not absurd and you, sir, are an impudent fool.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:08 PM   #72
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U missed the point but, thanks for the insult.
Never heard of John Williams BTW.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:17 PM   #73
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U missed the point but, thanks for the insult.
Never heard of John Williams BTW.


You are welcome, Sir, and may I be the first to I assure you, Sir, that I have many more finely crafted and most hateful communications awaiting by dreadful bidding.

Also - on a slightly saner note - you've never heard of John Williams? Christ I'm getting old.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:43 PM   #74
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:03 AM   #76
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there's guys like this:



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Old 01-22-2013, 04:10 AM   #77
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:18 AM   #78
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Also - on a slightly saner note - you've never heard of John Williams? Christ I'm getting old.



Nah, you're not old. Most people simply lack culture.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:25 PM   #79
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if they scratch and slide and things, then maybe... but normally if they just play music and alter bass and suddenly think they're amazing musicians, they're most definitely not.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:55 PM   #80
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I would say yes (assuming they do live perfomances and don't play pre recorded sets...) but the skill level is nowhere near what it takes to play an instrument or compose quality music.
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