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Old 01-12-2013, 01:41 PM   #21
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as long as it's SUPER and can do what no normal strat can .

well what I did was install two dual rails (neck and bridge), get 12 pickup combinations possible (!) and installed a Killpot and also changed minor hardware stuff like the string trees. currently waiting for the Floyd Rose to arrive
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:55 PM   #22
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well what I did was install two dual rails (neck and bridge), get 12 pickup combinations possible (!) and installed a Killpot and also changed minor hardware stuff like the string trees. currently waiting for the Floyd Rose to arrive


That definitely qualifies as a SuperStrat!
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:34 PM   #23
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What the ****

A thread on super strats and not one mention of charvel?

Bah
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:53 PM   #24
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Heard great things about Vigiers, but never seen one in a shop.


yeah i've really liked the ones i've tried- they have a couple of niggly things I don't like (which are pretty much personal preference- i'd prefer a wider neck, and they paint the back of the body black on the ones with maple tops, which i don't like), but i'm still kicking myself i missed a really good deal on one a while back

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you might be better off looking at the newer edge zero which uses ball sockets and has been proven to be a better system overall.


is it really any better? I mean they're no longer made by gotoh... that in and of itself smacks of costcutting.

never tried the newer edge zero, but a *lot* of people love the original edge, and like it more than the later "improved versions". Ditto the OFR.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:26 PM   #25
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yeah i've really liked the ones i've tried- they have a couple of niggly things I don't like (which are pretty much personal preference- i'd prefer a wider neck, and they paint the back of the body black on the ones with maple tops, which i don't like), but i'm still kicking myself i missed a really good deal on one a while back



is it really any better? I mean they're no longer made by gotoh... that in and of itself smacks of costcutting.

never tried the newer edge zero, but a *lot* of people love the original edge, and like it more than the later "improved versions". Ditto the OFR.


cost cutting aside at least on paper the edge zero is better. granted i've only tried a couple of guitars with it and can't vouch for how well it does in the long term. not having the knife edge to wear out seems like a good plan though. i'll say that i've been a FR guy for the most part and only owned guitars with the original not a liscensed. stopped using locking trems about 5 years ago.
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What the ****

A thread on super strats and not one mention of charvel?

Bah


reread and you'll see at least 2 mentions.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:42 PM   #27
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cost cutting aside at least on paper the edge zero is better. granted i've only tried a couple of guitars with it and can't vouch for how well it does in the long term. not having the knife edge to wear out seems like a good plan though. i'll say that i've been a FR guy for the most part and only owned guitars with the original not a liscensed. stopped using locking trems about 5 years ago.


The intonation adjust bolt is a very nice feature.
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There is a distinct lack of guitar porn in this thread so please allow me to supply some with pictures of Superstrats I've owned and stupidly sold
















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cost cutting aside at least on paper the edge zero is better. granted i've only tried a couple of guitars with it and can't vouch for how well it does in the long term. not having the knife edge to wear out seems like a good plan though. i'll say that i've been a FR guy for the most part and only owned guitars with the original not a liscensed. stopped using locking trems about 5 years ago.


yeah no knife edge means nothing to wear out, but then on the other hand it might not react like a knife edge trem and a lot of people want something that reacts like a knife edge trem.

and yeah the long term thing is the thing.

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yeah no knife edge means nothing to wear out, but then on the other hand it might not react like a knife edge trem and a lot of people want something that reacts like a knife edge trem.

and yeah the long term thing is the thing.



OFR on Showster is still holding up after 20+ years and LFR are still in good shape after 10+ years.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:56 PM   #34
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Don't need a Floyd to be a Super Strat dude

As long as its an evolution of the traditional guitar it counts... Though your probably right about the JP6
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OFR on Showster is still holding up after 20+ years and LFR are still in good shape after 10+ years.


yeah i mean the high quality knife edge trems don't seem to wear out much.
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6 of those aren't Superstrats.

They've got to have a Floyd Rose/Kahler locking style bridge on them. Nice guitars tho





My only true Superstrat. I have another but it's shaped more like a PRS or Gibson, so I guess I can't count that one.



I agree. If it does not have a Locking Trem, it is not a SuperStrat, ie, A basic fat strat is not a SuperStrat.

That is a beautiful SuperStrat that you have there, Way Cool. What is it?
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So what the original Charvels don't count as a super strat guitar?

They defined the species....
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So what the original Charvels don't count as a super strat guitar?

They defined the species....


No, EVH's Kramer with the Floyd Rose, defined the species. Without a locking trem, it is not a SuperStrat.
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Looks like a Super Strat to me.

Also 5150 wasn't originally a Kramer, it was an Ash bodied strat. He then fitted a Kramer neck on it. It still wasn't a Kramer.

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They do have to have a Tremolo on them as long as it is not a vintage style 6 point or 2 point. I guess a Wilkinson style variant is alright/passable. But fixed bridge and vintage style don't count as a Superstrat at all.


Fair enough... So what is a hard tailed RG? A Fat Strat?

Seems a bit ******ed to say it has to have an floating trem.
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Looks like a Super Strat to me.

Also 5150 wasn't originally a Kramer, it was an Ash bodied strat. He then fitted a Kramer neck on it. It still wasn't a Kramer.



By Definition the FrankenStrat had a FR. You can call the pre-FR EVHs frankensteins, but by definition they are not SuperStrats.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstrat

Overview of the Frankenstrat

The Frankenstrat represented Van Halen's attempt to combine the sound of a classic Gibson guitar with the physical attributes of a Fender. It was originally made from an ash Stratocaster body, with pickup routing that Eddie altered to fit a Gibson PAF humbucking bridge pickup.[1] It had a maple neck and fretboard, and chrome hardware. It developed through several early paint schemes ultimately into the now famous combination of red, with black and white stripes. It is a six-string guitar with a Floyd Rose tremolo.
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