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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NJ
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All-Round rig suggestions
What do you think would be a good all rounder rig for metal, rock, post-rock, ambient, etc.? I also want the amp to be able to djent, and the clean channel has to be very clean.
What I was planning on doing was getting a Mesa Dual/Triple Rec (triple might be way too loud for me) and maybe a TC G-Major or some other rackmount effects processor. Would it be a better idea to get individual pedals instead of a multi effects processor? Would a different amp suit me better? In case anyone wants to know, I'd be running a Fender Tele/Strat for the post-rock/ambient stuff, and an ESP Viper with EMG 81/85 for the metal stuff, but possibly some of the ambient stuff. Any suggestions are welcome, but I don't want it to be too expensive.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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"Don't want it to be too expensive".
Yet you're looking at Mesa and high-end TC. What the hell is too expensive? |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NJ
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By too expensive I mean obscure amps that cost upwards of $3k. I'd be buying almost everything used anyways.
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Mark V. Or maybe a IV if you lean toward the high gain more than the low.
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Call me John
Join Date: May 2008
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The EVH 5150iii 50w is a Bad MoFo!!
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One among the fence.
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Southern California, USA
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Road King II.
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Artist In The Ambulance
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Egnater Armageddon, 5150III, Mark V, Carvin V3
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Join Date: Aug 2010
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5153...add Line 6 M13 with Mission Engineering pedal and you're done.
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Don't even like pedals.
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sydney
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+1 to everything suggested.
TS, you're literally spoiled for choice. Get out and try some stuff out.
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Australia
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So this is out of the running?
http://www.cecamps.com/main/amplifiers/brigand/ If you can afford that ^, buy it.
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Somewhere along I-35
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With that many different sounds, you actually might want to consider a rack pre/power amp setup. I know nothing about those in any way, shape, or form (barebones guitar ->pedulz -> AC30 guy), but I do know that with the proper setup you can have a rig that gives virtually endless tonal possibilities that can be entirely MIDI controlled. Which is freaking awesome.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NJ
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I was also thinking along the lines of an AXE-FX 2, but I don't think $3k in total with the MFC is plausible for me. I'm kind of weary of the 5150 III because the 5150s were known to have shit cleans, has it changed on this new one? Mark V's are out because I can't find any used, I'm hoping to try and get everything I buy used.
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One among the fence.
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Southern California, USA
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The 5150 III is a completely different amp. To the point that I actually wished EVH just gave it a new name. All of the channels are excellent. Perhaps not voiced right for everyone, but there's nothing "bad" about it.
I thought about recommending the Axe FX II, but didn't for the same reason, it + a poweramp + a controller would almost certainly go over $3K. But if you don't mind stretching, it might be a better option than a traditional amp. It's certainly a king of true versatility.
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Call me John
Join Date: May 2008
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The 5150 is a Fender amp now.....Very Good clean channel!
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Screven, Georgia
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The 5150 III has some pretty nice cleans. It's not made by Peavey, but by Fender. If you doubt that it has good high gain sounds, both guys in Unearth use it for the newer stuff. With all of that said, I recommend the Mesa Boogie Tremoverb if you want to go Mesa for not so much. It has a nice clean channel and that nice growly sound that you expect out of a Dual Rec, but it's a bit more articulate. If you can afford it the Roadking or Roadster suggestions would be nice. You might like the Orange Rockerverb 50/100 mkII, because you can audition different tubes to stiffen or soften the tone up. It's a different flavor of gain though. Good cleans, but it needs to be cranked to get the crunch really going tonewise.
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One among the fence.
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Southern California, USA
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Keep in mind that if you're planning on using a lot of FX, you're going to have to mod any old (pre-2010 I think) Mesas, because they have parallel loops that don't play nice with FX.
The new Rectifier "Reborn", Roadster and Road King II are all fair game for plug and play.
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Look at it's competitor, the Kemper KPA? Could do the KPA + midi controller + powered cab/wedge/whatever for $3k. Or a used AxeFX Ultra + goodies. As for effects, you'll get better quality effects with good pedals, but the trade off is the foot tap dancing to turn on/off the right ones :P I'm not huge into effects, so I'd choose ease of use :P I'm using a POD HD500 as a midi controller for my KPA. At least until Kemper comes out with their foot controller.
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Call me Mike
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New Jersey
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For post-rock/hard rock/metal I use a Mesa F-50 (discontinued) and a pedalboard. Great cleans, great drive. I also use a Laney GH50L when I'm feelin' a little bit British. I've also got an Ampeg V2 in the shop getting fixed up. So for ambient stuff...you can use anything really. I get great tones out all of those and they are all very different amps.
If you can try and nail the tone of 3 bands, what bands would they be?
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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you beat me to it. it should be in the running. that thing is redic. unfortunately he won't find one used unless he kills an owner.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NJ
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For the different genres, Post-Rock - Explosions in the Sky/Godspeed You! Black Emperor Djent - Periphery Metal - Parkway Drive or Killswitch Engage
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