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Old 01-13-2013, 07:52 AM   #1
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Buying guitar, need advice!

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What guitar would you say is the most "priceworthy" if we're talking about a budget of about 1000$. Would it be a stratocaster or what do you think? I'm playing a U2'ish kind of style, Edge is one of my favs. We're talking new guitars here, not used. I've tried a lot of guitars but can't really decide which one, would be awesome to get some recommendations! My amp is a Marshall MG50DFX.

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Old 01-13-2013, 08:10 AM   #2
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What guitar are you using now? Are there any other guitarists that you like that you would like to be able to sound like?

The Edges' tone is layered with delay. He uses Gibson LPs, Explorers and Strats.

On that budget and specifically for the Edge I think you should get a Mexican Stratocaster, a better amp and a decent delay pedal. The amp is important because you'll sound much better when you get a good one. The MG series is unfortunately not a good one.

How long have you been playing?
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:19 AM   #3
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As of right now I'm playing on a Supreme Strata copy, beginners thingy. I've been playing for about 2 years now and I'm gonna start playing live with the band in just a few weeks so a new guitar is vital for success. We use a lot of delay and reverb when we play. I also happen to like to play a lot of blues rock, let's say like "The Black Keys" so that would be cool to able to. I've been thinking about maybe getting a semi-acoustic but that might not fit in with the U2'ish sound.

Would this to the trick?

http://fender.com/en-SE/guitars/str...ed-transparent/

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Old 01-13-2013, 08:47 AM   #4
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Yea that would do the trick. But you should really think about the amp too. The Deluxe Players is good but with that amp of yours you're spending too much on the guitar and ignoring the amp.

The MG series are very poor and your guitar will sound a bit pants through it.

The Mexican Strats are very good Strats. You could even get a used modern AC30 within your budget.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:12 AM   #5
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What do you think about the Fender Mustang series when it comes to amps?
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:32 AM   #6
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I think they're Ok! Definitely an improvement over the MG. I'd say the mustang 3 is the one you'd want but if possible a good hybrid or ideally a good tube amp is what you really want.

Tube amps are the real deal. Everything else is imitation to a large degree. The mustang amps are modelling amps, so they have digital versions of valve/tube amps, whereas actual tube amps are the real thing.

Tell me your budget and ll try and help you with the best amp I can think of
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:50 AM   #7
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Hmm ok, Don't think I can give more than about 300$
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:26 AM   #8
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Godin freeway http://www.godinguitars.com/godinfreewaysap.htm
It's very good guitar!!!

P.s. I think that you need a good amp
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:18 AM   #9
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This is why you should probably get a Mexican Strat so you've got about $500. But whatever, you need the gold hardware on the deluxe lol.

If you have $300 then yea, get the Mustang.

If you were sensible and listened to the advice you'd get the Mexican Strat, because the Edge, not being the most amazing guitarist in the world relies more on effects and tone from his amp than in between pickup selectors and gold hardware.

You could then get a used AC30 which is the amp that the Edge uses. Like this.http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/view...nid=84456600377

That's my advice anyway. I hope it helps.
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This is why you should probably get a Mexican Strat so you've got about $500. But whatever, you need the gold hardware on the deluxe lol.

If you have $300 then yea, get the Mustang.

If you were sensible and listened to the advice you'd get the Mexican Strat, because the Edge, not being the most amazing guitarist in the world relies more on effects and tone from his amp than in between pickup selectors and gold hardware.

You could then get a used AC30 which is the amp that the Edge uses. Like this.http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/view...nid=84456600377

That's my advice anyway. I hope it helps.


A squier stratocaster classic vibe is a good guitar at a right price!!!
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When you say playing live, do you mean gigs? If so do you know if they have p.a. systems to mic your amp?
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:53 PM   #12
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I'll definatly give the Mexican Strat another look and as of right now I'll have to keep using the amp I've got.
Yeah I mean gigs, and I don't think they do.
Could someone explain what the bad things are with MG50DFX? would be good to know.

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Edge gets his tone from his effects. He even says so and demonstrates in this video. Unimpressive at best.

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I'll definatly give the Mexican Strat another look and as of right now I'll have to keep using the amp I've got.
Yeah I mean gigs, and I don't think they do.
Could someone explain what the bad things are with MG50DFX? would be good to know.


They have the Marshall badge on them, but they sound nothing like the Marshall clean tone we're used to. And the Distortion doesn't have that crunch that we all know and love.

It's not a tube amp either.

It just sounds nothing like a Marshall. It's sterile and cold next to them.

And cynically, it's pretty much Marshall making as cheap an amp as they can, packing it into various sized combos and heads and enticing people into buying poor quality under their brand recognition.

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Edge gets his tone from his effects. He even says so and demonstrates in this video. Unimpressive at best.



That is brilliant. He's so awesome about it too, probably because everyone who knows anything about guitar is completely and utterly onto him.
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:17 PM   #15
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So I could just aswell buy an Epiphone LP which is cheaper and put more money on a new amp instead?
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Is there a reason you want a new guitar (not used)? Buying used can get you a lot more bang for your buck. Just make sure you try the guitar first. I try to avoid buying used guitars from ebay or places like that.

You should try to split your budget pretty evenly between guitar and amp. If I were in your situation, I'd get a Fender MIM Strat (probably HSS for what you're using it for) or maybe a Tele. This is gonna cost you $500 new, but you can easily find a minty used one for $300, maybe less. You should also check out the Fender Blacktop and Modern Player series, Hagstrom Viking and Ultra Swede, Epiphone Dot and Les Paul, the G&L Tribute series, and Grestch Electromatic Jet Club. For an amp I'd go for an Egnater Rebel 30 if you're willing to go used. This'll run you like $500-600. There are also countless used tube Marshalls floating around for about that much money. If you really don't wanna go used on the amp either, I'd suggest a Peavey Valveking 112 or a VHT Special 12/20.

Remember, if you go used, you can spend the leftover money on pedals and shit!
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So I could just aswell buy an Epiphone LP which is cheaper and put more money on a new amp instead?


If you have $1000 you could get the Epiphone LP Standard or the MiM Strat used and get a good amp.

The guitars listed by Mattrusso are all decent guitars.
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