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Can someone please give me a link to the tab of the scale

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There is no such thing as D minor dorian pentatonic.

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One can use the pentatonic scale as the Dorian "mode". The reasoning is that the pentatonic scale is minor in tonality, such as the Dorian mode, but, it does not contain the other scale degrees needed to make it specifically "Dorian". So, one can use the pentatonic scale over a passage in which a Dorian mode may be called for, however, there is not enough context to call it definitively "Dorian".


EDIT: Whether one can call a pentatonic "Dorian" or not will depend on the context in which one is using it. ie: If one were to play D minor pentatonic over a ii chord is the key of C, it could be said that PARTS of the Dorian mode are being used.

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MaggaraMarine

^^ And if it's like that, why would you call it minor dorian pentatonic? It's just minor pentatonic.

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Angusman60

Correct.

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Just Google image search "Minor Pentatonic Scale"... thats what you are really looking for. Learn the positions in the pics and you'll be rockin' like Slash.

There's no "Dorian scale"...though no doubt a subsequent flame war will contain people who disagree.

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It could also be said that you're playing the C major scale.

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congratulations, you saved me from an embolism

i think i pissed myself laughing, though

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And here I was all excited and stuff cos I thought I was gonna learn something.






...fml

Angusman60

Well. You learned that mode doesn't exist.

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evolucian

cough... it does... but not as the headline suggests.

Angusman60

Please, explain.

EDIT: If you mean using a dorian mode reduced to 5 notes, then, yes you have a point. But, keep in mind that reducing a dorian mode to 5 notes that would retain the context of the mode would not be the same as the minor pentatonic.

EX:

D minor pentatonic:: D F G A C

Pentatonic derived from a reduction of D dorian:: D F G A B

They key here is the context. While the D minor Pentatonic (DMP) does contain notes of the D dorian mode, it does not contain the notes that are required to contextualize it as dorian on it's own.

On the other hand, the reduction I gave has a B natural, which is required for a mode to be D dorian, as a dorian mode must be a natural minor scale with a raised 6th degree.

In conclusion, yes, you can create a pentatonic scale that will fit the mode "dorian", however, it is a reduction, not the full mode.

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evolucian

no... but Hail can.

MaggaraMarine

Mode wars begin...

Why isn't there a dorian scale? If you explain it's just the mode of a C major scale, why is A minor considered as scale? I mean, A minor scale has the same notes as C major scale. It's only a mode of C major scale. And D dorian scale is much closer to D minor scale (in use) than it's to C major scale. What I mean by that is you would play D dorian scale over a progression in D minor, not over a progression in C major (because you would be playing C major scale in C major). Of course you could call it D minor scale with major 6th accidental...

And I know, modes and scales are useless blablabla... not

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Look at my previous post, I explained it all....

But to answer your question. "Mode" is really an outdated way to categorize these groups of notes. It really depends on personal preference. It comes from the early church modes which were labeled before an established method of notation was adapted. That way, no matter what pitches the group was singing on, the monks knew which notes to sing by the marked "mode".

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evolucian

Thanks Angus, however, its not what you said.



That says there is no Dorian mode, if I take the sentence/statement to read exactly as it is.

MaggaraMarine

Yes, I know that modes are really outdated and nobody makes that kind of music any more (or maybe somebody does). But why couldn't dorian be called a scale? Because today it's used like scale. The key is D minor, you could play the notes in D dorian over it.

Or was that a response to evolucian?

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^ was a response to me. Although Hail answers them real well and in depth, much better than I ever can.

Angusman60

Haha, I wasn't meaning to say that exactly. Sorry, I had just woke up and was trying to be witty.

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