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Old 01-18-2013, 03:54 PM   #41
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" Like for example wouldn't an A sharp scale be the same thing as a B flat scale?"

Yes. A sharp and B flat are enharmonic equivalents (different ways of writing the same note).

However, A sharp major would have four sharps and three double sharps, so it's not a practical key for written music.


Exactly!

No musician would refer to an A# scale, the same way they wouldn't refer to the note F as E# or a B as Cb (but they would be enharmonically equivalent - the same pitch).
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:15 AM   #42
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Exactly!

No musician would refer to an A# scale, the same way they wouldn't refer to the note F as E# or a B as Cb (but they would be enharmonically equivalent - the same pitch).


I totally use E# or Cb, depending on the key I'm in...
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:51 AM   #43
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Exactly!

No musician would refer to an A# scale, the same way they wouldn't refer to the note F as E# or a B as Cb (but they would be enharmonically equivalent - the same pitch).


Uh, except for the keys of C# major & A# minor (7 sharps), and the keys of Cb major and Ab minor (7 flats).
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:02 AM   #44
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no musician would refer to a scale at all unless they're talking about their instruments

right: "i prefer a 35" for a taut butt end but it's ultimately limiting, hence why i'm looking into the dingwall combustions so i can get the fat ass of a black girl on the same neck as the sweet, innocent face of a 14 year old taiwanese boy"
wrong: "haha faggt its the sublocrian scale not superlocrian wat r u retrded"
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:36 PM   #45
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I totally use E# or Cb, depending on the key I'm in...:)


I get what your'e saying - but we're trying to keep it simple to get the concept across :)
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:40 PM   #46
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Uh, except for the keys of C# major & A# minor (7 sharps), and the keys of Cb major and Ab minor (7 flats).



Do you mean Db major (5 flats) and B major (5 sharps) :)?
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:43 PM   #47
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:43 AM   #48
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Do you mean Db major (5 flats) and B major (5 sharps) ?


No, I mean C# Major and Cb Major.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:22 AM   #49
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No, I mean C# Major and Cb Major.


Spend a lot of time playing in Cb major, do you?
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Spend a lot of time playing in Cb major, do you?


Yes.

All the time.

In fact tonight I'm going to play scales and modes in Cb major, C# major, Ab minor, A# minor just to piss both you and Hail off.

And once I'm done with that I'm going to play entirely in double-sharps.

Ha.

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Old 01-21-2013, 02:05 PM   #51
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Yes.

All the time.

In fact tonight I'm going to play scales and modes in Cb major, C# major, Ab minor, A# minor just to piss both you and Hail off.

And once I'm done with that I'm going to play entirely in double-sharps.

Ha.

Victory is mine.


All right, you win! Enjoy playing in E## Locrian flat 4 or whatever tonight :)
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:53 PM   #52
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All right, you win! Enjoy playing in E## Locrian flat 4 or whatever tonight


I'm doing it now. A# minor all the way, dude.

btw the symbol for double-sharp is a kind of 'x', so that would be Ex Locrian Flat 4. Although now I come to think of it isn't a flat 4 a kind of engine?
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:20 PM   #55
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Exactly!

No musician would refer to an A# scale, the same way they wouldn't refer to the note F as E# or a B as Cb (but they would be enharmonically equivalent - the same pitch).

What about F# or Gb major? They both have 6 sharps/6 flats. F# major has an E#, not an F. And Gb major has a Cb, not a B. Also E# does appear in C# major chord (that is the V chord of F# minor - key with only three sharps). But I'm not referring to F as E#. I'm referring to E# as E#.
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What about F# or Gb major? They both have 6 sharps/6 flats. F# major has an E#, not an F. And Gb major has a Cb, not a B. Also E# does appear in C# major chord (that is the V chord of F# minor - key with only three sharps). But I'm not referring to F as E#. I'm referring to E# as E#.


I know what you're saying. We were just trying to help someone out, not confuse them with semantics.

I see that G♭major is G♭, A♭, B♭, C♭, D♭, E♭, and F, and F♯ major is F♯, G♯, A♯, B, C♯, D♯, and E♯.

Knowing this does not help the original poster out much, but it is accurate.

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I question the focus of that statement. Personally I would say that scales form part of the musical landscape, just not a very large part. Technique also forms a larger part of that landscape but it's not the whole landscape either. You can have brilliant technique and are boring as hell to listen to. Musicality is also part of the landscape, but not the whole thing - there are people who are very musical players but are limited by their technique.

What makes you a better player is looking at landscape as a whole, getting a general idea of it, and gradually filling in the details rather than filling in the details hoping to get a general idea of the lie of the land.
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