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Old 01-18-2013, 12:22 PM   #61
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I think a bank would be cautious about lending to a band for a record. with piracy, I think there would be too much doubt on their ability to pay it back. and this way they don't have to worry about interest either.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:40 PM   #62
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I suppose there are indeed interests with crowdfunding.
As in, if you pay X$ to them before-hand, you get a "perk" whose value is greater than X.
So if you pay 10$ you get the CD that would normally cost 15$ maybe.

Wouldn't that be a sort of interest given to the people funding you this way?
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:39 PM   #63
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How exactly are you reading that as if I'm saying you're getting 'screwed or something'?
What part of my post even hinted slightly in that direction?


That's just how it reads to me on the internet without body language and tone of voice.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:34 PM   #64
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Why hasn't anyone taken their offer to record ANY song
I mean someone did take the most expensive offer, why not ANY song....surely....in PTH style...
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See I had the idea to start up a page on like GoFundMe or something to raise money for people who agreed with a cover idea that they should do, to be given to them when the goal was reached. 250 people donating $10 each is a lot easier than $2500 in one go. And I realize, sure, you could donate that directly to them and get something right off the bat for it, but when you have the potential for a priceless cover, I think it could be worth it. Besides, who wouldn't want to make Rody Walker learn a little Korean for a Gangnam Style cover? Come on.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:36 PM   #65
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See I had the idea to start up a page on like GoFundMe or something to raise money for people who agreed with a cover idea that they should do, to be given to them when the goal was reached. 250 people donating $10 each is a lot easier than $2500 in one go. And I realize, sure, you could donate that directly to them and get something right off the bat for it, but when you have the potential for a priceless cover, I think it could be worth it. Besides, who wouldn't want to make Rody Walker learn a little Korean for a Gangnam Style cover? Come on.

I would donate to that
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:52 PM   #66
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See I had the idea to start up a page on like GoFundMe or something to raise money for people who agreed with a cover idea that they should do, to be given to them when the goal was reached. 250 people donating $10 each is a lot easier than $2500 in one go. And I realize, sure, you could donate that directly to them and get something right off the bat for it, but when you have the potential for a priceless cover, I think it could be worth it. Besides, who wouldn't want to make Rody Walker learn a little Korean for a Gangnam Style cover? Come on.

I would definitely donate $10 or so for that, if you could get enough people.

There could be some awesome covers. Someone on Reddit mentioned getting them to cover either "Kiss from a Rose" (Seal) or "Swim to the Moon" (BTBAM) both which I think would be awesome. Gangnam Style would be funny too.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:53 PM   #67
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I would definitely donate $10 or so for that, if you could get enough people.

There could be some awesome covers. Someone on Reddit mentioned getting them to cover either "Kiss from a Rose" (Seal) or "Swim to the Moon" (BTBAM) both which I think would be awesome.

Holy shit, Swim to the Moon


I still say that Bohemian Rhapsody would be hysterically awesome
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:14 PM   #68
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Cant they just get a normal loan or something?
Yeah I have no idea how the music industry actually works, but if you can produce the record just with crowdfunding, it means you can produce it just with money (even if you don't have a label), so why not just get a loan, produce the record, get sales back from it, pay off the loan and get profit?

Like...almost every small business in existence?

Or am I missing something?


Cuz loans are shitty. If you want the band to be paying off an album for ten years then go ahead. In the mean time not being able to afford to make another album.

Contrary to popular belief bands don't have to pay back the loan for the album they make with the labels money, if the album doesn't break even then the loan is dropped and the label makes a loss, which is normally a warning that the band perhaps aren't worth the investment they made last time.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:34 AM   #69
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That's just how it reads to me on the internet without body language and tone of voice.

Ahh, so you have absolutely nothing to help you to interpret what I'm saying apart from the words I use, that's possibly why you're interpreting things wrongly then.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:41 AM   #70
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I'd love for them to write a song about me. I don't fancy paying $2500 for it though
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:57 AM   #71
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Ahh, so you have absolutely nothing to help you to interpret what I'm saying apart from the words I use, that's possibly why you're interpreting things wrongly then.


Yup. Now I'm interpreting that you're kind of a dick, but I could be getting that wrong too, I guess.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:09 AM   #72
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Yup. Now I'm interpreting that you're kind of a dick, but I could be getting that wrong too, I guess.

Well it would obviously seem reasonable to assume that you are getting that wrong too, considering that you're having trouble with your interpretations.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:17 AM   #73
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I suppose there are indeed interests with crowdfunding.
As in, if you pay X$ to them before-hand, you get a "perk" whose value is greater than X.
So if you pay 10$ you get the CD that would normally cost 15$ maybe.

Wouldn't that be a sort of interest given to the people funding you this way?
Yeah, but this kind of interest also give the consumers a bigger incentive to buy the product, because it's i) Cheaper than the finished product ii) There's the (quite cool) perks iii) You are supporting the band in a more direct way than just buying their record would be.
Since it's probably mostly the fans these advantages would appeal to, I'm not sure how much of a difference this will make, though.
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once every band starts doing it, people wont be giving as much money because they will have to spread it around more. i thinks
You're still basically paying in advance for the album, though, which should continue to have some appeal. Of course, if every buyer only paid to have the album produced, there'd be no money left for the actual artists. I doubt that this would seriously become a problem, though.
And there's always the perks, which big fans of certain bands will only pay for with those few bands, although it is probably true that these will become less appealing as the novelty declines.

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Well it would obviously seem reasonable to assume that you are getting that wrong too, considering that you're having trouble with your interpretations.
Well, he would certainly be correct in observing that you're being kind of a dick, take it from me whose observations have more accuracy than his. Your general dickiness is considerable lower though, and unworthy of the status "dick".

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Old 01-19-2013, 03:30 PM   #74
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Well it would obviously seem reasonable to assume that you are getting that wrong too, considering that you're having trouble with your interpretations.


Nah, I think I got it.
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:00 PM   #75
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My question is this. Theres a couple of thousand people who got perks that involve getting their name in the physical liner notes of the CD, one of them being me. Isnt that going to be a shitload of names? haha
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:01 PM   #76
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fuck bands who use kickstarter or w/e to fund $125k recording projects & fuck people who think that is cool or DIY.



And why is this bad?
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:08 PM   #77
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And why is this bad?


He must have a hard on for DIY.

Technically funding a hundredofthousand recording project is not in fitting with the rough and ready "DIY Aesthetic"
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:09 PM   #78
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They got funding easily because they're a known band. Have to see how it works out with an unknown band first.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...length-lp-cd-an
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:12 PM   #79
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The thing is most of these bands doing indie go-go and kickstarter and doing really well already have a pretty dedicated fan base. Smaller bands most likely will still have to use labels to spread their music like the old days.

There are so many bands on the internet that you can find, you need that extra help to get above the rest.
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:17 PM   #80
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fuck bands who use kickstarter or w/e to fund $125k recording projects & fuck people who think that is cool or DIY.



I mean, I used to really dig PtH with Kezia, when they were actually "punk" 'n' stuff, but I'm backing this.
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